[hugh3]

But if these are just DDOSes, then (a) there's no way to steal sensitive information that way, and (b) there's no real defence against 'em anyway. So this particular argument is pointless, right?

There's an argument for whiteish-hat intrusions, but DDOSes must be intrinsically black-hat, right?

[niels_olson]

>DDOSes must be intrinsically black-hat, right?

No. While I agree there's no red-team contribution in a DDOS, quite a few people regarded Anonymous DDOSes on Wikileaks detractors (MasterCard, et al) as the digital equivalent of a sit-in. That seems a bit of a stretch to me also, but certainly there's some application of DDOS that's not purely black-hat.

[daeken]

Yea, I'd definitely agree in the case of DDOSes -- they don't seem to make sense with their other attacks, even. Silly and destructive.