[ggm]

I'm not a fan of voting machines. Paper and pencil work well in lots of other democracies. But that aside, Dominion suffered real harm to their share value. I think this application of a defence leaves a problem behind. She wasn't the candidate, she was a legal officer speaking to motions before the court. If not about dominion directly, didn't she file claims asserting they were parties to electoral fraud? and if the statements were not meant to be believed, what is the status of her case filed in court? Isn't she guilty of wasting the courts time?

[chrisco255]

She did NOT say her statements were not meant to be believed. That is this journalist's own sensational interpretation of the legal filing. That is all. Very important to distinguish headlines from literal quotes. You'll notice in the article that Powell is never directly quoted.

DVS systems were proven to be highly erroneous in Antirim County, Michigan, where machines were observed to have a 68% error rate: https://www.deepcapture.com/2020/12/antrim-county-computer-f...

Besides this fact, DVS systems are socially hackable, and highly vulnerable via the system's adjudication process that gives precinct IT admins and volunteers broad, unilateral powers over determining the intent of huge batches of votes (without bipartisan observers) with an overly simplistic drag and drop mechanism. Nevermind that their FTP server also used SolarWinds.

DVS deserves every bit of criticism levied by Powell and more.

Voting machines should all be banned. Especially closed source, corporate controlled voting machines. And DVS should go bankrupt.

[ggm]

As I said, I'm no fan of machine voting. But, to stay in context, I'm finding this really confusing. Can you explain the Venezuela thing? Is this actually legitimate and Powell has evidence of foreign interference through dominion? (You did say every bit..)

[Sacho]

It doesn't sound like it. It's point two of the original complaint(https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/do...):

> Powell’s wild accusations are demonstrably false. Far from being created in Venezuela to rig elections for a now-deceased Venezuelan dictator, Dominion was founded in Toronto for the purpose of creating a fully auditable paper-based vote system that would empower people with disabilities to vote independently on verifiable paper ballots. As it grew, Dominion developed technology to solve many of the technical and voter intent issues that came to light as a result of the 2000 Presidential Election. Its systems are certified under standards promulgated by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (“EAC”), reviewed and tested by independent testing laboratories accredited by the EAC, and were designed to be auditable and include a paper ballot backup to verify results.1 Since its founding, Dominion has been chosen by thousands of election officials throughout the United States to provide the technology to effectively administer transparent and fully auditable elections

I couldn't find Powell's exact statements, but they seem to be some convoluted link between Dominion and a different voting system manufacturer. Unfortunately this particular claim is very difficult to prove defamation on; Dominion's a public figure, so as long as Powell presented some sort of flimsy evidence, she can claim that her opinion was based on it. It would require a finding of "actual malice", that she absolutely knew the evidence was wrong, in order to claim defamation, and as you can imagine, that's a very high bar.

What's more likely to hurt her is number 4, where Dominion claims she used a forged document as evidence. If they can somehow prove that she was aware the document was a forgery, then they seem to have a reasonable chance of success there. Fortunately, in a motion to dismiss, the judge looks at all evidence as favorable to the plaintiff, so perhaps a few of their claims will survive. We'll see, and IANAL, but even if I was, this isn't legal advice :)

[chrisco255]

You're rooting for the multi-billion dollar corporation overseer of 40% of U.S. elections? Does your lust for the death of democracy have no bounds?

> Since its founding, Dominion has been chosen by thousands of election officials throughout the United States to provide the technology to effectively administer transparent and fully auditable elections

As if the choice itself lends credence to the security of the system. SolarWinds was used by virtually all branches of the government and it was hacked, substantially so. You want to make the claim that Dominion Systems are unhackable?

Dominion does have links with other voting manufacturers. They purchased Diebold Systems and Sequoia and integrated their technology and assets into their company. That whole industry is a revolving door of politicians, lobbyists, and yes, even Chavez and Maduro backed Venezuelans.

Even Huffington Post covered this as recently as 2010: "EXCLUSIVE: On Heels of Diebold/Premier Purchase, Canadian eVoting Firm Dominion Also Acquires Sequoia, Lies About Chavez Ties in Announcement" https://www.huffpost.com/entry/exclusive-on-heels-of-die_b_6...

[Nursie]

> DVS systems were proven to be highly erroneous in Antirim County, Michigan

That report is trash, known to be inaccurate at the time it was published and was put together by someone who has made a series of (highly partisan) incorrect claims. It appears to have been made public by the courts purely to stop accusations of a coverup, not as any sort of endorsement. A fact-checking site has an analysis here -

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/16/donald-tru...

tl;dr there was a lot of human error in that county, but no evidence that any large scale vote-switching happened, or that the machines miscounted.

> DVS deserves every bit of criticism levied by Powell and more.

Do they deserve the "criticism" that they were colluding with foreign powers and committing fraud, for which she had evidence? None of which has been forthcoming?

[dr-smooth]

Wow -- what a credible source you've quoted. It's the rantings of a madman.