[iagovar]

IDK, but I won't spend 30K in a car that only allows me to city travel. If I'm forced to live without an ICE I just won't have a car, and that's it.

That's fine for many people, not so good for the car industry and their direct and indirect jobs.

Buying a 6K second-hand car is not only much more ecological than buying a brand new electric car, but I have more range, I can get it cheaply fixed if I go to something like a Renault Clio, a Peugeot 206, Fiat Panda and the like.

Since I live in a flat and I don't have garage, I can park it in my street without worrying about recharging (it's just going to get me a few minutes to get to the gas station, a two minutes to get gas).

With the salaries in my area, spending 30K in a car it's just too much money. It's more than my current yearly salary. And there's plenty of people with lower income than mine.

Also, turns out electric cars come with a lot of bloat that breaks, so the most immediate upside of such car goes away.

As far as I can see, too much has to change for mass adoption. With the current trend they'll remind cars for rich countries and rich people for a lot longer.

[zelos]

> Buying a 6K second-hand car is not only much more ecological than buying a brand new electric car,

I'm not sure how true this is: 80% of ICE CO2 emissions are from driving/servicing I believe.

[iagovar]

Probably, but you still have to compare it to an electric car.

Not having a car wins in both scenarios.

[kazinator]

> I won't spend 30K in a car that only allows me to city travel.

Right? It's like a $30K license to be a four-wheeled member of the working class.

[iagovar]

I can understand the Fuzz in high-income countries. 30k seems doable when your income is in the range of 60-200k. For me 30K is a lot of money.

And honestly I don't really feel that moving around a massive battery in a newly produced car is better than buying a Fiat Panda and taking care of it. My brothers Panda is nearing 500.000 Km and it's fine.