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by throw080700 1922 days ago
The open KNX Standard seems to be the answer to IoT's woes. But nobody seems to have heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KNX_(standard)

This classic talk - Learn how to control every room at a luxury hotel remotely (2015) [has eng subtitles]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-O4XuCW1Y

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It's not that nobody heard of it, the problem is that it's not cheap to get stared since the devices are pretty expensive and you usually need to run wiring.

> It is administered by the KNX Association cvba, a non-profit organisation governed by Belgian law which was formed in 1999. The KNX Association had 443 registered hardware and software vendor members from 44 nations as at 1 July 2018. It had partnership agreements with over 77,000 installer companies in 163 countries and more than 440 registered training centres.[2] This is a royalty-free open standard and thus access to the KNX specifications is unrestricted.

It looks to me like it is competing with systems like Control4 in US since usually you want somebody to install and set it up for you.

Having said that I do believe that it is a good standard and I hope I will be able to implement it in my next home for the fundamental (must work) things like heating, blinds and lighting (maybe with DALI).

Also Zigbee and Z-Wave.
Zigbee got problems with non-free licensing. Z-Wave seems open, is it completely open?
Z-Wave is very closed, afaik only a few chips are available and need to be licensed. Compared to that Zigbee seems to be much more open.
Ok. The top thread of this HN post about Zigbee not being that open:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21825822

Zigbee is IEEE 802.15.4, you can also run 6LoWPAN on top instead of the Zigbee stack.