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by sdenton4 1909 days ago
That was the "let me Google that for you" response to your own completely unsupported claim. It seems like you're unwilling to look at evidence contrary to your opinions; the 'debate' is amongst deniers who aren't looking at evidence. I suggest some self reflection is in order; you're arguing with the same tactics as a climate change denier.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-tragedy-of-the-post-...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID

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You’re making the claim. Prove it. Don’t give me an editorial. Don’t give me a wikipedia page. Link to the controlled studies, showing the widespread damage that you’ve claimed.

You can’t, because they don’t exist. You linked to the best there is, and it doesn’t rise to any reasonable standards of scientific evidence. Self-reported data is almost worthless. Uncontrolled, self-reported data is worthless.

I’m perfectly willing to believe you, but editorials won’t convince me.

I'm sorry to hear your search engine got a flat tyre. Belligerently sniping about exactly what it is you want us —your research assistants, seemingly— to hand deliver you, doesn't seem like the best way to retain karma here, let alone have a discussion about something...

But anyway, some more material for you.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.19.20214494v... https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3026

It's going to be many years until we have a proper handle on this. Until then you might have to be willing to accept a flood of more anecdotal field data as having some analytical value.

There are two studies linked directly from the Harvard health article, one tracking Italian outpatients, and the other using randomized phone follow-up. Feel free to go read them, and more besides.

There's a constellation of individually imperfect studies pointing in the exact same direction; that's basically how science happens. The studies exist in the first place because people observed Something Strange was happening, and wanted to quickly get a sense of severity and prevalence, to inform public health response.

And if you're not willing to update your priors, I'll be here waiting for the perfect study that proves long covid doesn't exist...