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by tbalsam 1919 days ago
I looked into that a while back (and again today) when browsing around the books I could read. I appreciate the ideas covered, though I think I found the self-aggrandization on the part of the author to be somewhat grating, to the point I'd not want to invest the time reading through it to get the insights.

However! I am starting some search through some of the old Taoist traditions and am finding some very good pieces of wisdom (the parable of the horse and the broken leg is quite a good one). The humility in that religion, at least upon surface level (and brief interactions with one Taoist individual) was striking.

I've also heard the stoics are quite good, though I've yet to find a stoic book I can stomach yet that bridges it to the modern day (albeit in a very cursory search). I may have to go back to the old ones.

If you found TSAoNGAF to be appealing, maybe the above would be a good starting place for a journey of your own. I'm just starting mine through those areas, and on the words of other's I've based it on. It's been quite fruitful for me.

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> I found the self-aggrandization on the part of the author to be somewhat grating, to the point I'd not want to invest the time reading through it to get the insights.

My retrospective is that the author just uses his (and others') experiences as examples. But he discusses both his highs and his lows in the book, and as such it really didn't rub me the wrong way at all. Maybe it depends on personal preference (or how inspiring you find the actual content), hard to say.

> I've also heard the stoics are quite good

Maybe that's a path to happiness, but I found the following point of TSAoNGAF to be incredibly enlightening (and, retrospectively, fully in line with my experiences thus far): Happiness stems from the act of overcoming challenges. It is expressly not some state you eventually reach, but a transient in the process of getting somewhere you want to be. Probably the main takeaway from the entire book for me is that the single most important thing for achieving happiness is choosing what problems you are going to deal with day to day. (That's also the deeper point behind the title: Choosing what to give and what not to give a fuck about.) The idea of finding the right mental framing for the world around you instead of letting it rule your emotions is the same as e.g. the parable you mentioned or the stoics (I guess).

Ok, enough of my rambling. If you do read the book (I'm not set on changing your mind) I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on it, and maybe even how the ideas within compare to the ones from Taoism or Stoicism. I'll keep my mind open to the sources you suggested too. :)