[latch]

I'm just another peon, but...

I'm a former ASP.NET MVP, a codebetter.com blogger, I wrote Foundations of Programming, I own a handful of .NET OSS libraries. Yada, yada, yada..

All of that is pretty meaningless, I'm not saying to show off (most of that stuff isn't show off worthy). However, by all accounts, I'm an expert C#/.NET programmer who's been in the thick of of any progressive .NET movement. I know C# and ASP.NET (MVP or WebForms) much, much better than I know Ruby and Rails. Yet, somehow, I'm still more efficient in RoR (and thats only getting more true). I can get as low level about this discussion as you want, it won't change my opinion.

The two big wins for me: I write a ton less code and code is easier to test (this is largely since IoC is a language feature).

[eropple]

You know it's MVC, right? MVP and WebForms are the same thing.

[latch]

Opps, right thanks. And no, WebForms is not an implementation of MVP...its an implementation of god knows what.

[city41]

MVP is "Microsoft Most Valuable Professional", which I believe is what he meant. I believe the later use of MVP (instead of MVC) is a typo.

[dstein]

It's model-view-presenter, which is basically MVC.

[city41]

He said "I'm a former ASP.NET MVP", if a person is an MVP, then in that context it's "Most valuable professional"

[kenjackson]

He also said:

I know C# and ASP.NET (MVP or WebForms) much, much better than I know Ruby and Rails.