[carapace]

"TBF"?

> I think we should be relatively open to the possibility that there is a good description of consciousness

I agree but what could that possibly be?

The only reason we know subjective awareness exists is that we "have" or "are" it ourselves.

It's not like electricity where we don't (and can't) know what it "is" but we can describe its behavior and effects mathematically with extraordinary precision because we have instruments to measure it.

We have no instruments that can measure subjective awareness, only self-reports.

Now it's often overlooked that you can investigate consciousness by means of your own consciousness. However, the information evolved that way always remains subjective, and so is of no avail to create objective descriptions of consciousness.