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by nonotreally 1920 days ago
My gut says that you are right.

I think the election fraud nonsense suggests it might not be that simple. Bad actors in positions of power are abusing these services to the point where we have real conflict occurring.

How do we account for these edge cases?
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jtdev 1920 days ago
If it's not illegal, don't censor or moderate it in any way. More speech is better than less speech; Uncensored speech is in fact the antidote to the supposed problems that Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc. disengenuously claim to be solving.
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nonotreally 1920 days ago
Are there any cases where more speech is not the answer?

Can we agree that calls for violence is a limit of speech that is good?

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jtdev 1920 days ago
That would fall into the "illegal" [0] category if people are in fact calling for violence.

[0] https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...

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nonotreally 1920 days ago
Sounds like we agree on this. I want to push you here though.

Did twitter contribute to the events on the 6th? Do they have any role to play?

Do you have to use the words "go and kill them" in order for it to be violence?

I'm trying to be genuine here, because I don't know. I will say it certainly feels like we saw the violence being induced for months ahead of time on twitter without explicit calls for violence.

Should we just allow this?

It's happening still. We have members of congress calling the election stolen. This is how more violence happens. It's a slow burn, but it's a burn.

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jtdev 1920 days ago
If the speech is legal it should not be censored or moderated in any way. Any deviation from that results in the technocrats interfering with the flow of legal information and manipulation of social, economic, and political processes - which is in large part how we ended up with the events of recent months in my opinion.
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nonotreally 1920 days ago
What if it's a private company?

Hackernews famously moderates their comment section, to the benefit of all.

Why can't this happen on Twitter?

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driverdan 1920 days ago
Not if it's non-specific. What if someone says "Death to all [group of people]", should they be banned? It's calling for violence but is not illegal in the US.
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