[Smithalicious]

If they keep vaccinating with this vaccine and it does turn out that the vaccine causes the deadly blood clots it will destroy the legitimacy of vaccines. "they pushed the vaccine despite knowing that it kills some people" is how it will be framed. Even though I agree that for health reasons continuing to use it is almost certainly correct, not considering the public opinion is madness and will cause massive issues. Do not increase vaccine skepticism beyond where it's already at.

[libertine]

I think they spoke too soon, either way, they said it should be brought to attention of people of the potential symptoms and what they should do in that event - something that the manufacturer itself hasn't even acknowledged yet. Here in Portugal when this was addressed to the public it was brought to people's awareness that skin bruises, bleeding, general pain for few days should be reported to the doctor.

Let's see what Norway and Germany will do, I think the eyes are more on them - since they are dealing with those cases. Also if more cases keep showing.

[_Microft]

We have no innate sense for probabilites. To give people a bit of intuition about the risk, a good approach might be to try put the risk in relation with the risk that comes with activities and drugs that people already know and do.

Example, with made up numbers:

"You are 4 times as likely to suffer a blood clot from a 4 hour flight than from getting vaccinated with the AZ vaccine."

[martin_bech]

Covid kills about 100:1, hospiltalises 20:1. IF the vaccine causes clots, it does so in about 140.000:1.

[Varriount]

And yet, if vaccinations don't continue, it's highly likely more people would die, that otherwise may have lived.

  Paul Hunter, an infectious disease expert at the University of East Anglia, noted in a statement that even if the risk of CVT is raised by the vaccine to five or more cases per million people vaccinated, the COVID-19 infection fatality rate for men in their mid-40s is 0.1%, or 1000 deaths per million infected.

So it's a tricky problem. I do believe you are correct though - even just evidence of missed side effects would be like meat and drink to anti-vaccination sentiments.

[libertine]

The problem is the perceived risk, for many people getting COVID is avoidable if they take precautions, while the scenario of willingly take a vaccine that can result in death is way more darker.

A lot of young people won't even find the "relief" they got from knowing COVID is more lethal on the elderly, since this seems to be happening on younger females.

It's not an easy problem to fix, and I see a lot of people refusing this until they get to the bottom of the reason, a safe treatment for these cases. I'd say this will probably be the end of the road for AZ vaccine in a lot of places.

Not to mention the pile of fuck-ups AZ did for months in a row, they painted themselves as unreliable and liars to the public.

[mytailorisrich]

> The problem is the perceived risk

Communication helps a lot.

If you say "50 cases in 17 million injections" people might not know what that exactly means and might be worried simply by the way it is reported. Now, if instead you qualify the above with "which is less than the chance of dying in a car crash so it's very safe" then people may be unfazed.

I feel the main problem is the way this was reported, which created an overblown perceived risk.

[onetimemanytime]

Plus, what else might be hiding in the vaccine that we may find years from now?