[jensus]

the UK's implementation and seemingly general view on lighting seems to be very different than to the rest of Europe. For one, it is quite minimal, the major highways and public parks are barely lit. And the lighting used is so orange and so little lumen that it leaves the eye struggling to either adjust for the reflection of the moon or the street light, straight up awful. I don't mind a balance between preserving traditional feel around pubs etc but we definitely need to have public paths adequately lit.

[thinkingemote]

Somewhat related, a few local authorities in the UK do not light paths in many of their parks to discourage people using them. They say it increases safety. The logic is that it dissuades well, lets say, less than wholesome people, from congregating at night in the parks and also it dissuades normal people from using the places thinking they are safer if they are well lit but who might have more risk of bad things happening at night.

[ClumsyPilot]

I feel such attempts at 'logic' just apply people's biases and make a mess.

Unless there is solid evidence they should not be withholding lighting.

Some folks want to drink outdoors or chillin the park, and they will with or eithout light, but like this a lot more people will break their nose or leg