[tptacek]

You're not serious. Look at who ran ISS!

I have faint memories of SNI people being upset that ISS salespeople tried to pigeonhole us as hackers (this all precedes the widespread adoption of the hat coloration system).

I guess, on post-97, pre-99 ISS, I stand corrected. :)

[bink]

Wasn't it Klaus who made some ridiculous statement like "no hackers work at ISS" at one point in time?

[tptacek]

I don't want to dunk on Klaus, who seems like a perfectly nice person these days, and this is all way, way in the past, but like: hah, no.

[cklaus]

Thanks Thomas.

With a team like ISS X-Force, it would be silly to claim there wasn't any hackers involved.

Infact, I'm pretty sure there was quite a few Phrack articles written by ISS employees in their earlier life, under their irc names,,, myself included. ;)

I think most of the content that would have gone into Phrack in early days became posted as commercial vulnerability research later on.

[tptacek]

oh my god

Perfectly nice person period!

There's an old rivalry with ISS, and a thread about X.25 networks and 40hex puts me back in my Calgary head space.