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by splintercell 1925 days ago
> She joined up with ISIS not the best example to bring up.

She's the perfect example. If a full on British person like Nigel Farage does a heinous crime (or make it apples to apples, he joins ISIS) would they take his citizenship away?

If she was born in the US, it would be unthinkable.

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I would hope they would take his citizenship away. I don't want a ISIS member coming back to the UK.

The case went through all the legal proceeding and she is not allowed back in the UK. Good!

> If she was born in the US, it would be unthinkable.

If they were born in the US, they would have just been assassinated by drone strike instead like they did with Anwar al-Awlaki.

> I don't want a ISIS member coming back to the UK.

A lot of ISIS members came back, they faced persecution, some even death sentence but none had their citizenship stripped.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-strips-citizenship-is...

> If they were born in the US, they would have just been assassinated by drone strike instead like they did with Anwar al-Awlaki.

Yes, but the point is, is there are a legal treatment which is different for people who have been living here for generations vs those whose parents became a citizen in their lifetimes.

> A lot of ISIS members came back, they faced persecution, some even death sentence but none had their citizenship stripped. > https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-strips-citizenship-is...

Well they shouldn't have been let back in anyway. I also have no sympathy for a woman that said she felt nothing when she saw severed heads (of people executed by ISIS). Also there are claims that she enforced some of the Sharia laws and wasn't a passive member of the Caliphate.

She revoked her citizenship when she left.

> Yes, but the point is, is there are a legal treatment which is different for people who have been living here for generations vs those whose parents became a citizen in their lifetimes.

No there is a different legal treatment for people that join a rogue state which literally wants to destroy yours. I don't care about these people. Her supporters can cry racism all they want, It isn't racism. We don't want terrorists back in the country.

You keep avoiding the answer in the guise of "well I would have done X". The question is simple, how come she lost her citizenship but other ISIS fighters of British ethnicity didn't?
ISIS is bad, no one is denying this

The citizenship concept is a requirement for modern life. If a person has their citizenship revoked, what are they to do?

They are illegal where they are, and they are illegal where they go. To my knowledge, there's no processes in any country for becoming a citizen without a preexisting citizenship from another country.

Back to this specific example, if she had wanted to come back and denounce ISIS; what should the UK offer her?

What about if she wanted to come back and face trial; what should the UK offer her?

In the end, just to point out the obvious, revoking citizenship is completely unneeded. If she comes back, charge her with her crimes. If she travels, extradite her. If she stays, let the leopards eat her face.

I don't want any terrorist that has commited treason coming back to the UK. They can rot for all I care.