[pampa]

One of my favorite zen koans is "Fire-poker Zen":

"Hakuin used to tell his pupils about an old woman who had a teashop, praising her understanding of Zen. The pupils refused to believe what he told them and would go to the teashop to find out for themselves.

Whenever the woman saw them coming she could tell at once whether they had come for tea or to look into her grasp of Zen. In the former case, she would serve them graciously. In the latter, she would beckon to the pupils to come behind her screen. The instant they obeyed, she would strike them with a fire-poker.

Nine out of ten of them could not escape her beating."

It is a great metaphor. Nine out of ten applications of the tolerance paradox do not pass the fire poker test. One needs a certain level of enlightenment and maturity of judgement to apply it, otherwise it can turn into metooism, mob behavior and plain hypocrisy.

[Kye]

>> "It is a great metaphor. Nine out of ten applications of the tolerance paradox do not pass the fire poker test. One needs a certain level of enlightenment and maturity of judgement to apply it, otherwise it can turn into metooism, mob behavior and plain hypocrisy."

You used a lot of words to make a mundane, unsupported assertion sound profound. Do you have any real examples?

[pampa]

>> You used a lot of words to make a mundane, unsupported assertion sound profound.

Well, that's the game, isn't it?

Btw, like some of your music. Do you have finished tracks online?

[x86_64Ubuntu]

I'm not really sure your fable says much, except for some how bringing in metooism into it.

[brigandish]

I never understood that koan and I’m not sure I understand it now.