[tolbish]

It's not that the term "mail lady" offends anyone. It doesn't.

The point is that singling out her gender is needless, and kinda seems a bit strange if gender was never really pertinent to the story in the first place.

"Cancel culture" would be going through high school recommended reading lists and removing books that focused "wrongly" on gender or something.

[Evidlo]

> It's not that the term "mail lady" offends anyone. It doesn't.

I think that's too generous. I've definitely met people who just enjoy feeling indignation at anything.

[delecti]

Lets be realistic, that's most people. Everyone thinks their pet causes to get offended about are justified. Even people getting indignant about cancel culture are enjoying their indignation.

[CathedralBorrow]

Funny; since you are right now bringing up this group of people to express indignation towards their behavior.

[Rule35]

There's a difference between laughing at and being outraged by. Pointing and laughing is perfectly reasonable, getting bent out of shape over imagined slights is paranoia.

Despite you using the word 'funny' I don't think you were laughing while posting that whereas the GP was.

[Rule35]

It would be weird if you were just saying "the female-mail carrier" for no reason. But we usually describe people to differentiate them from someone else for conversation.

Like "the mail lady says she likes our cat", differentiating from the mail guy who we also don't know personally, but who doesn't like the animals.

Also, it's sex not gender people are referring to.

> "Cancel culture" would be going through high school recommended reading lists and removing books that focused "wrongly" on gender or something.

That certainly is, but it doesn't end with their most egregious actions.

[anoncake]

> Also, it's sex not gender people are referring to.

I don't think so. "The mail carrier follows female gender roles" is bad enough, but why would you describe someone as "the mail carrier with a vagina"?

[Rule35]

>> Also, it's sex not gender people are referring to.

> I don't think so.

You don't think lady in 'mail-lady' refers to woman?

> why would you describe someone as "the mail carrier with a vagina"?

Rude. I never would. But if I did it would be redundant after calling her a woman. What do you mean?

But maybe I'm trying to help my brother find a partner so I do want to point out available women, and that does imply people with vaginas. Again, so, and what do you think would be a more efficient way to do this?

[anoncake]

> You don't think lady in 'mail-lady' refers to woman?

It can either refer to their sex or their gender.

> Rude. I never would. But if I did it would be redundant after calling her a woman. What do you mean?

If we refer to sex, a woman/lady is someone with a vagina. So yes, if you call someone a mail lady, you literally are describing her as a mail carrier with a vagina.

> But maybe I'm trying to help my brother find a partner so I do want to point out available women, and that does imply people with vaginas. Again, so, and what do you think would be a more efficient way to do this?

In that case, you might also talk about "the cute ginger mail lady with blue eyes" (or whatever your brother likes). But in most situations, that would be quite inappropriate.

[Rule35]

> It can either refer to their sex or their gender

That seems unlikely and definitely unproven.

We're told gender expression is individual, so the gendered concepts you hold for 'woman' aren't going to be the ones I hold. Thus is seems unlikely that we're referring to gender or nobody would be able to understand each other.

Also, we refer to people by the same pronouns whether they're awake or sleeping, cross dressing or not, which changes their gender expression, but not their sex.

> If we refer to sex, a woman/lady is someone with a vagina.

Which we do. Yes.

> So yes, if you call someone a mail lady, you literally are describing her as a mail carrier with a vagina.

No. I'm also not describing her as a bipedal humanoid. Some things are just expected unless you say otherwise.

> the cute ginger mail lady with blue eyes

Yes, lady. Okay, so no suggestion.

> But in most situations, that would be quite inappropriate.

Right, right, human attraction is verboten.