[dennisbalon]

Bthw, you mention this - "The goal for every outsourcing is to make your product great because only in that case they can upsell you and make more money."

And would you please allow me to disagree here. In the esence you are more than right. The core of the business model for an outsourcing company is exactly that - increase the incoming flow of returning clients.

But again from my experience. The best oursourcing client is the one that does not very clearly knows what he/she wants and also is early paying for rather unhumble estimates and hour reports.

With all my experience I am a "bad" oursourcing client. Why? I know exactly what I want, I can be a true technical partner to any dev team and as a result I can challenge their decisions and critisize in case to much time is spent.

As I said, I am far from a perfect oursourcing client. So by end of the day in my experience outsourcing teams just tried to dinifsh the work no matter how spaghetti code they produce and "get rid of me".

Again, there are always exceptions but please hear me out and see that I am talking from my experience.

Also, I have checked out datrics.io and I can say if your personally were in outsourcing for many years - chances are you were that rare exception.

Have a great day :)