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by etiennemarcel 1919 days ago
It's not true. Overseas parts of France are fully integrated in the republic, and citizens there have the same rights as in the mainland. There's no distinction between "settlers" and "natives" from a legal point of view (the economic picture is a bit different). There have been referendums in New Caledonia about independance and people there still want to be part of France.

To be faire, I don't even understand how New Caledonia or French Polynesia (where people have full representation in congress) can be on the non-self-governing list of the UN when Puerto Rico (where citizens don't have a seat in the house, senate or electoral college) isn't.

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> Overseas parts of France are fully integrated in the republic, and citizens there have the same rights as in the mainland.

I'm sure you know that the exact same claim was made about French Algeria.

"the Mediterranean coastal region of Algeria, housing the vast majority of its population, was ruled as an integral part of France from 1848 until its independence. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Algeria

Such statements like yours were exactly what was repeatedly screamed out by perhaps what you would call your hero?, Jean-Marie Le Pen. His daughter also recently said all that torturing of some folks was good for Algeria. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170420-le-pen-french-col...

Vous savez exactement ce que vous ĂȘtes.

> There have been referendums in New Caledonia about independance and people there still want to be part of France.

Again, such facts were also claimed about Algeria using the exact same tactics. It is not until 1961 where an actual fair referendum was held. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0035853590845221...

As one of France's longest-held overseas territories, Algeria became a destination for hundreds of thousands of European immigrants known as colons, and later as pieds-noirs. However, the indigenous Muslim population remained the majority of the territory's population throughout its history. In 1835, indigenous rebels organized the Algerian resistance movement against French settlement; the rebellion was suppressed in 1903 after the "pacification campaign" by the colonial forces, who used chemical weapons, mass executions of prisoners and civilians, concentration camps and other atrocities in order to put them down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Algeria

I don't think I'll answer to a comment calling me a fascist. Comparing Algeria before independence and the current status of overseas France is dishonest.
No one called you a fascist. But you clearly hold views identical to Le Pen. Comparing how you justified continued sending settlers to "overseas" France and how the same steps were justified for pre-independence Algeria is perfectly valid and honest.