[smoldesu]

It's certainly not flawless, but I haven't seen some of these issues you're mentioning. I'm running a dual-monitor setup off my 1050ti, with my primary display being a 1440p 144hz display. I only have windowing issues on games that already had windowing issues natively (the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games are a particularly large sore thumb), and I have never seen a game spawn on the wrong display. I haven't played Doom Eternal, but Doom (2016) ran at a locked 60hz for me. I could push it higher, but at 1440p I'm already stretching the capabilities of this card. Game streaming, while partially broken (eg. you can't stream an individual display), never had that considerable of a performance impact for me. I streamed Valheim over Discord the other day, and only lost ~3 or 4 FPS overall.

Besides that, I understand where you're coming from. The experience isn't flawless, but neither is gaming on Windows. It's ultimately up to you to pick and choose your battles, but the majority of the games I play work relatively well, even compared to Windows.

[kodachi]

It would be more fruitful if you both mentioned your concrete specs/drivers/proton-version to compare experiences. Remember to check your game in protondb.com and contribute if you want.

[linux_user_83]

The issue is the OPs mis-representation of how well it works.

[linux_user_83]

> It's certainly not flawless, but I haven't seen some of these issues you're mentioning.

You previously said for single player it was.

I experience them all the time and I tried different distros (Ubuntu, Fedora, Manjaro) it has been quite consistent issues over at least the last two years.

I find it very hard to believe you haven't seen any of these issues (especially alt-tabbing). I actually sometimes think people are just straight up lying but I have no hard evidence.

> I'm running a dual-monitor setup off my 1050ti, with my primary display being a 1440p 144hz display. I only have windowing issues on games that already had windowing issues natively (the Fallout and Elder Scrolls games are a particularly large sore thumb), and I have never seen a game spawn on the wrong display. I haven't played Doom Eternal, but Doom (2016) ran at a locked 60hz for me. I could push it higher, but at 1440p I'm already stretching the capabilities of this card. Game streaming, while partially broken (eg. you can't stream an individual display), never had that considerable of a performance impact for me. I streamed Valheim over Discord the other day, and only lost ~3 or 4 FPS overall.

Discord streaming literally halves my framerate and I have a 1080Ti with a Ryzen 3700X. So I just don't believe you. You won't see performance problems with Doom 2016 as even a medicore card back in 2012 can play that game decently (my old 660GTX played the game fine at medium on a i7 from 2014ish).

> Besides that, I understand where you're coming from. The experience isn't flawless, but neither is gaming on Windows. It's ultimately up to you to pick and choose your battles, but the majority of the games I play work relatively well, even compared to Windows.

It isn't flawless on Windows but it doesn't have any of the problems I've mentioned, it is generally very stable and it has worked consistently for year. I have no idea about the so called issues you have. I have a sizable library and I will fire up old games every so often and they work without issue.

However I know how to look after a Windows installation (a lot of people don't and that includes so called tech savvy users). I've played all sorts of games on Windows 10 fine. Games going back to 2002. The main problem I have is the resolution of my screen is soo high the fonts and sprites are tiny.

[jcastro]

> I find it very hard to believe you haven't seen any of these issues (especially alt-tabbing). I actually sometimes think people are just straight up lying but I have no hard evidence.

I've got thousands of hours gaming on linux and I've never had an alt-tab problem. Kind of weird to go right to claiming people are outright lying, maybe there's another issue you're running into?

[ycombinete]

> weird to go right to claiming people are outright lying

Rule 1 for having a good time on HN: Never argue with a green account.

[linux_user_83]

I've been around here for a while and I've been lurking for a while. If you are alluding I am somehow trolling or something else, I am not. I

If you actually have any solid rationale against my position other than the lies of these things never happening (even though on proton db there are reports of it happening in games).

Most of the arguments have anecdotes about how it works fine for them and then claim I am making anecdotes myself even though I have a very large steam and gog library and have tried a good sample of games on at least two machines now and a few distros. It isn't anecdotes when you have made a lot of effort to investigate the viability.

I really want to stop using Windows but unless the gaming situation improves I can't and people pretending these issues such as the ones I have mentioned don't exist they won't get solved.

Anyway it will be back to lurking again because this place is a total hive mind.

[ycombinete]

Tbh I don’t have an opinion on this matter as I don’t game on Linux at all. I’m inclined to believe your side actually. As I find doing almost anything on Linux is a harder than it is on windows.

My green account rule is separate to the matter.

[linux_user_83]

I don't believe you either it happens on quite a few games. I've even seen proton devs discuss it being a problen.

[smoldesu]

>You previously said for single player it was.

No, I had originally said

>...others give you a chance to have a flawless experience...

I'm sorry that Discord streaming doesn't work for you. It sounds like an isolated issue judging from the reactions of other commenters here, perhaps you should contact Discord? And as for Windows, I honestly don't know what you're going for here. Yes, games run "fine" on Windows, we are in agreement here. Many games also run "fine" on Linux, and that has been my argument from the start. If your concession is "it runs fine if you aren't tech savvy", then it sounds like this whole point is moot and we're back to square one.

[linux_user_83]

> No, I had originally said >...others give you a chance to have a flawless experience...

This is splitting hairs. You were making out like it "just worked". It doesn't for me and I know plenty of other people that have run into the problems.

> I'm sorry that Discord streaming doesn't work for you. It sounds like an isolated issue judging from the reactions of other commenters here, perhaps you should contact Discord?

It does "work". The problem is the performance is crap. I have far better GPU than you do and I have a pretty decent CPU, so if you were playing the same game you would have it worse. The fact that it is that variable is the problem. It just quicker and easier to reboot into Windows and not have to deal with the issue at all. Which is the real point I am driving at.

> Many games also run "fine" on Linux, and that has been my argument from the start. If your concession is "it runs fine if you aren't tech savvy", then it sounds like this whole point is moot and we're back to square one.

They don't run fine on Linux . If you have even the most non-standard screen configuration things do not work correctly (as I said in my original post) and I have the same problem on different distros on different machines I own (I have some computers in the graveyard with different GPUs). I have messed around with GPU pass through (GT1030s are garbage so regular desktop video playback was poor but the gaming worked fine).

Gaming on linux is a massive compormise in terms of either quality, reliablility, performance or compatibility. You cheer leading to people in your comment and giving them a false impression of the situation will just sour those that attempt it against using alternative operating systems (I am an operating system enthusiast and I use some very odd things for fun).

[fuzxi]

I have only had issues with changing workspaces ("alt-tabbing" in other WMs) with games running through WINE. I've never experienced that with Proton.