[VBprogrammer]

This is a classic application of the appeal to think of the children. I'm sure before homosexually became culturally acceptable there were plenty of people employing the same arguments against legalising homosexually.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

[inglor_cz]

"Think of the children" is not an universal red herring, though. It can be used in bad ways and good ways, and a lot of ways in the middle. Child labor was banned because people started to think of the children.

Transition of minors does not seem to be a morally clear cut topic to me, given that they aren't allowed to do a lot of other life changing things. You can argue for the opposite, but too many trans activists are painting their opponents as stupid, disingenious or even hateful and want to silence them by force.

This will blow back on them.

[DanBC]

Where do children get cross sex hormones or surgery?

(If you can't answer this question without googling it shows that maybe you need to slow down before posting, to avoid spreading misinformation.)

[morelisp]

Minors are prescribed hormone blockers, which are not "transition." You are being lied to by the UK press.

[Hamuko]

Were?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_gay_propaganda_law

[konjin]

We are literally thinking about the children here. We are asking: "Should we let children cut off their genitals?"

If we are going to let them do that we should at least let them put their genitals where they feel like before then.

The hypocrisy is the problem. You can't both have children be too immature to decide to have sex, yet be mature enough to make decisions about their sex which will impact them for the rest of their lives.

[tesseractive]

> "Should we let children cut off their genitals?"

It is currently against any kind of recommended practice to perform genital surgery on children. It is not approved nor is it practiced. This kind of intentionally hyperbolic language is the sort of thing that is the stuff of tabloid headlines, not reasoned discussion.

[tekknik]

Yet there are people condoning this in this very comment section.

[morelisp]

> Should we let children cut off their genitals?

This is disingenuous moral panic and a good example of the motte-and-bailey approach the UK press uses to discredit proper medical treatment of trans youth.

[konjin]

This is disingenuous and sidesteps the argument about capability of children.

It's really simple:

You are either OK with kids having control of their bodies up to and including invasive surgery and having sex with who they want or you are not.

Anything in between is either pedophiles trying to push the narrative on their side, or idiots not understanding what they are doing.

[spacemanmatt]

Conflating sexual identity with precocious sexuality is clown-car category duplicity. Sometimes the audience here even takes offence at being treated like that.

[DanBC]

You're basing your argument on a lie. Children do not get GCS nor cross-sex hormones.