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by partingshots 1926 days ago
$4k death traps more like. There’s no way you would ever get those approved in the US for sale.
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Death traps because rest of the vehicles are way heavier and more dangerous (also to pedestrians).

If all cars were like that it would be fine.

No, they would still be death traps since cars may also hit other hard obstacles like walls and rocks.
They're going slower so it will be ok.
20mph to a wall is going to leave a mark without crumple zones
Probably much safer than a motorcycle though. I always found it interesting how we have such strict crash safety testing for cars, but still allow motorcycles despite them being incredibly dangerous. Maybe just because it is visually obvious that a motorcycle is dangerous? Or more likely because everyone would get mad if you tried to ban them.
I suspect there are a few factors:

* Motorcycles aren't very dangerous to bystanders.

* Approximately zero infants or toddlers are routinely transported via motorcycle.

* Motorcycles don't make up a large percentage of traffic in the U.S.

* Motorcycle deaths are more likely to leave donable organs intact, so it's a bit like the lottery, but for organs. Some people opt in to entertainment, and the rest of society benefits.

The US auto market requires a lot of specific safety features even compared to other developed countries.

There are plenty of new cars from leading global auto manufacturers that aren’t legal for sale in the US.

Some of the regulations are pretty weird though - the mirrors in US cars are far worse, and so are lights.
For sure. Red rear turn signals and not requiring better headlight glare mitigation come to mind.. and are some of my pet peeves.

But when it comes to expensive systems like crash structures, active and passive safety systems, the US requires a lot.

EuroNCAP ratings are harsher, so not really. It's mostly that the US system is based on SUVs and other behemoths. Look at the new small Toyota Yaris. That's what is required to get a good rating these days. Most newish SUVs doesn't even have the same amount of safety systems (like airbags between driver and front passenger seat).
I was speaking solely about regulatory requirements (i.e FMVSS) for selling a vehicle, not the NCAP programs. It is generally legal to sell vehicles with bad NCAP scores. For instance: the 2018 Fiat Panda met EU regulations to be sold but scored 0 stars on EuroNCAP.
I think it's not that the US is odd as much as each market is odd in a different way.

I remember one of the points of the failed trans-atlantic trade treaty was about handling where the stop lights should be on cars, because "safety" regulations differ.

Yes, the EU has high standards and differs from the US mainly on minor details.

Standards (or lack thereof) in much of Asia/Africa/S.America are on a whole different planet.

I guess my point is, not being approved for sale in the US doesn’t mean the car is shockingly different than many other cars in the rest of the world. You can find unsafe cars that would be illegal to sell in the US that say “Nissan” or “VW” on them just over the border in Mexico.

Every manufacturer builds cars to meet the specific requirements and needs for a market. In many countries, the requirements are low and the #1 priority is cheap.

Better than scooters they are supposed to replace.
I wonder what’s worse: being squashed inside this car or just become airborne when scooter hits something. At least you’re required to wear a helmet when on a scooter. But as someone said here, if we only had those cars on the road(and a 30 km/h speed limit), it’d be much safer.
Seatbelts saved a bunch of lives by preventing occupants from getting flung out the car, so I’d imagine that being in the car is safer.

Current road death trends in the US indicate that people inside cars are dying less, but people outside of them are dying more, notably cyclists and pedestrians.

And this car has just one seatbelt (for the driver). The other passengers can go take a flight .
It has two seat-belts.
Huh, the video claimed otherwise. Nevertheless the safety is quite low here.
If they would be used for city speeds only, the risks aren't much bigger compared to scooters, in contrary.

But I have 0 doubt that being priced so aggressively, US and Europe would slap such a huge tariff to protect local markets, they would be very uncompetitive.

The price likely wouldn’t be very competitive if the manufacturer adds all of the design features required to sell that vehicle in the US.
It wouldn't be suitable for US highways. It would make sense if regulators would allow another class of vehicle for city cars.