[JumpCrisscross]

> pretty poorly organised companies

They range from start-ups to national champions, but I won't disagree with you on the poor organization of most European companies point. Everyone one re-papered existing systems to some degree of compliance. Given nobody agrees on what full compliance is, they're all right in their own ways.

[nolok]

I wasn't making a point about European companies in general but about the ones You work with personally. Because they don't seem to be like the usual norm for European companies, that do have procedures and tools for this, unlike in your experience.