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by easel 5480 days ago
This is true, but it sure would be nice if SOME vendor would take that advantage to linux. Lenovo or dell, for instance, if they decided to support ubuntu, could roll out a turnkey system that would probably work quite well with carefully chosen components.

It would take years of this attention to detail to catch up to MacOS though.

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This will never happen. We all waited so many times for Dell to make Linux first class and it never happens. Painfully the truth was always clear - there was no reason because Linux desktop would never approach anything remotely close to Windows in terms of usability and demand.

However, every web app that I've deployed (dozens) always had/has Linux on the server. For me, I nor the teams I worked with would consider anything else.

However, for the desktop, I gave up on that in '02. Went to Mac, never looked back. Linux server succeeds because it doesn't require any UI pleasantries. Desktop is a completely different story because it does. As much as I support the FOSS movement, I just don't think it has what it takes to make a compelling desktop. Ubuntu and others can copy OS X, but I don't think they'll ever make a comparable, competitive alternative.

What most people probably don't realize is that Apple is a laptop company. No one in the industry can match their industrial design. If you set down in front of anyone (who cares about their tools) Brand X laptop or a Mac laptop - it's no comparison. For me, software is my livelihood and I care about my tools and plastic junk is plastic junk.

This stretches out even further though because all those hardware decisions inform the OS decisions. It's not like, "yah, just use this ethernet chip" or "whatever, just get decent battery life, use whatever cells you need". Everything is considered. Every millimeter, every curve, every line. If a custom battery design is needed, then it is and it's made specifically for that device. If they don't have enough room for a typical laptop cpu, they go to Intel and ask them to make them one. No one else in the industry does this.

Ultimately I think these are the critical things. Design 100% matters. I recently work at one of the most prominent design companies in the world and I saw it all around me every day - they designed things for a reason and when you used the prototypes you were like, man, that totally makes sense. As a software developer, I'll never forget that - it reinforced my appreciation for things well thought out and it made it easy for me to deliver beautiful and well enjoyed products.

Lenovo, Dell, HP, etc - those companies produce things that are just 'made'. No one at any of those companies says 'make me a machine that looks like a flower' or 'how can we do something completely different?'. Their bottom line is the bottom line, so the cheapest materials go into every machine 'made'. This philosophy permeates the entire organization. So how can the 'greatest' desktop be 'made' for machines like this? It can't.

For servers where design doesn't matter as much, Linux is 'it'. It's fast, stable, gets out of my way and runs all the components I need. On the desktop, though, it's hobbled by hardware people that just don't care. Linux desktop needs someone to care in order for it to be a contender for the hearts and minds of ordinary users. Less is more in this case and a small group of people that can make design decisions for the future is what's needed to make Linux desktop something people would want to use. Something better than Windows.

But, to catch up to OS X? I don't think so. Especially now since it's being influenced by iOS.

What most people probably don't realize is that Apple is a laptop company.

Quickly transitioning to a computing appliance company.

But, to catch up to OS X? I don't think so. Especially now since it's being influenced by iOS.

Linux has an opportunity to get the power users and geeks that Apple is seemingly abandoning with the iOS merger. In 4 or 5 years I don't expect Apple to be selling consumer-level hardware that has an accessible command line or filesystem or the ability to run unapproved apps. That would be unacceptable for me, so I'm hoping that desktop Linux will be a viable alternative. I try Ubuntu every few years, and it's not there yet.

> In 4 or 5 years I don't expect Apple to be selling consumer-level hardware that has an accessible command line or filesystem or the ability to run unapproved apps.

As long as individuals continue to develop apps for iOS, I don't see that happening. Maybe they'll be behind an "Expert Mode" toggle.

That's exactly where I am now - an Ubuntu box for development and a Macbook Air and iPad for everything else. If I had the time to configure the Ubuntu box I could probably even leave the Air at home (although I would miss Acorn) - but at the moment too much is bust.

However, with iOS5 Apple have probably done themselves out of a further Mac sale from me - between the two of them, the iPad and Linux will cover my needs.

I bought an Inspiron 1420n from http://www.dell.com/ubuntu in 2007. That link used to take you to a page that described the benefits of Ubuntu and linked to a half-dozen desktops and laptops for sale at different price points, all slightly cheaper than their Windows counterparts. Now it goes to a single desktop system.

The laptop has worked well with Ubuntu 7.04 through 8.10 and Fedora 11 through 15. The main problem is that sometimes my keyboard and trackpad do not work after I resume from suspend.