[bartread]

> I paid you $120,000/year for this support contract...

> If I'm playing [sic] for the equivalent of a full time junior developer ...

Equating $120,000/year with a junior developer salary is exactly the kind of tone deaf I see too much of on here[0], but in this instance it plays in favour of your argument.

Depending on exactly where you are in the world - even within the US - $120k might be a much more senior salary, or several developers worth of salaries. It then becomes perhaps even more galling that you're seeing zero service for that outlay.

[0] Yes: I know junior devs in SV might get this but SV is not the world.

[stirlo]

By the time you add overheads to the cost of that developer it is much closer to a junior than a senior in most of the developed world.

[doopy1]

If by "most of the world" you mean "some of the united states" then I would agree with you. HN gives folks a rose colored view of the tech job market.

[dilyevsky]

I don’t see how this argument is relevant to the discussion. Also not hn fault europeans decided to pay US and China for all their software.

[nix23]

Boom headshot ;)

[jandrese]

In the US overhead can effectively double the salary. It includes taxes, retirement, healthcare (huge), dental, HR overhead, etc... It adds up.

$60k base salary is definitely junior developer territory.

[bartread]

Again, this isn't really true although of course there are significant overheads beyond salary. Here are some somewhat UK-centric examples: pension, employer NI, other benefits such as healthcare, office space, equipment, heating and lighting (by which I mean all business utility bills), licenses and subscriptions. Still, the total cost of a junior, even taking all of these into account, is nowhere near $120k anywhere I've worked.