[stefan_]

This is a difference in what you are buying. When you are buying a dedicated server, there isn't exactly a good way to hide that the thing has just gone up in smokes.

When you buy a storage API, sure, failure rates go up, latency increases 100x, but after a few hours its probably back to normal.

Of course, with the increased abstraction, you get more problems. "Availability zones" are useless when most cloud outages are because of configuration or systemic issues that tend to bring the whole thing down, no matter which AZ you are. But apparently it's now considered "good enough" to just go "oh we are down because AWS is down".

[tormeh]

If you're in with the big cloud providers you have no choice. Hybrid cloud is economically impossible due to the bandwidth costs.

Yet somehow, at smaller providers and dedicated hosters bandwidth is usually included as a too-cheap-to-meter feature. Gotta love cloud innovation.

[gowld]

Bandwidth is cheap until you run out and then it's very expensive.

[bauruine]

AWS is the new IBM. Nobody ever got fired for using AWS.

[greggyb]

And funny enough, it's now considered crazy to do a hardware startup, even if staffed up with industry vets. The reaction to Oxide is funny to watch, especially.