[vineyardmike]

> Fluency in woke is an effective class marker and key for these princelings to retain status in university and beyond.

While i have heard people issue the sentiment of this article, its hard to take anyone seriously when they use the term "woke". The word is only ever used in a derogatory manner, which is a give-away that the author has clear bias and agenda (as opposed to reporting on the parents and opinions themselves).

Not that it matters to anyone here, but "woke" is def not a class-marker.

[malandrew]

Your comment is illustrative of the issue in the article. No matter what term is adopted here, people like you will use it against them ex-communicate them from the in-group.

If "woke" is verboten, please suggest an alternate word for this groupthink phenomena which is aping all the worst aspects of Catholicism (catechisms, original sin, inquisitions, etc.)?

[vineyardmike]

> people like you will use it against them ex-communicate them from the in-group

I have no will to ex-communicate anyone. But this article, and many similar ones, use "woke" as a straw-man argument against "leftist" ideas. Proof is in your description of the word:

> If "woke" is verboten, please suggest an alternate word for this groupthink phenomena which is aping all the worst aspects of Catholicism (catechisms, original sin, inquisitions, etc.)?

This request is for a word meant to describe a perceived wrong. Woke is the correct word for what you're asking to define because only people with this agenda would use it, esp like that and thats what you want it for. As a more in-group word, try just describing your issue when a situation comes up, instead of grokking a word that carries aggressive culture-war baggage. Eg. try saying what you think, without making it a whole culture war group-think argument (because maybe life is actually more nuanced).

Maybe you're right though. Maybe my in-group knowledge is what allows me to say this. I roll my eyes at this word like when someone old asks a kid if they "tweeted on their face-gram" or someone who doesn't watch sports says "scored a homerun at their hockeyfoot game" but maybe people genuinely make good-faith assumptions that a homerun is a hockey-foot term because all sports are a single concept.

[harimau777]

I think that the problem is that Republicans tend to use the terms as bogeymen and catch all straw men to attack the other side (e.g. Antifa, woke, social justice warrior). That creates a situation where, even if the term still could be useful for describing an ideology, it becomes associated with bad faith arguments. If Republicans argued more in good faith then I don't think we would see this phenomena as much.

[jariel]

Don Lemon encouraging us to 'Stay Woke' just a few days ago [1].

It's trending towards derogatory but still commonly used.

[1] https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/03/04/cnn_don_l...

[cPALdjfH]

We could replace it with "Amerika, erwache!" (America, wake up!).

Has a proven totalitarian history. /s