[neilsense]

> It’s easier to build wealth as an immigrant

If you truly believe this you're too far gone to be brought back to reasoned thinking.

A black person in America is born into the richest country the world has every seen, already speaking the right language, with the right accent, is surrounded by safety, welfare, libraries, schools, colleges.

An immigrant has to work ten times harder to get the opportunity to even apply for a job remotely in their second or third language, leave their friends and family, entering a new country with zero credit and starting everything from scratch.

Absolutely ridiculous to suggest that an immigrant has it easier just because it doesn't fit the narrative you want to set. Maybe spend some time with Black and Brown immigrants and ask what they have been through, what they have witnessed since arriving, and how they feel about things.

[andrewmd5]

“too far gone.”

I’m sorry I’m not a model minority in your eyes, but it’s rich you’re telling a black person to spend more time with black people. These aren’t just my lived experiences, it’s subject matter that comes from thousands of hours of talking with the very people you claim I should spend more time with.

You’re so uncomfortable with race and acknowledging racism you’d rather pretend you are the expert. I’m not “too far gone,” I simply live a life you can’t bring yourself to understand.

If it’s such a ridiculous statement then I invite you to provide anything backing up that claim. Because all those resources you claim are available to Black Americans are often the very things lacking in Black communities: https://www.epi.org/blog/the-racial-wealth-gap-how-african-a...

I mean Christ, have you even heard of a food desert?

[neilsense]

I'm more than happy with acknowledging racism both when it happens and also understanding the depth of the effect.

I've been hurled racial slurs/insults throughout my life at various points. Sometimes randomly on the street, sometimes as a joke, sometimes when I didn't even catch the meaning of what was said until I had gotten home and it was too late to reply.

Despite that, I cannot subscribe to this thread that somehow people, of any colour, born in the most prosperous country the world has ever seen are somehow disadvantaged compared to those that arrive on its shores.

You may have spoken thousands of hours to people from all walks of life, but you are dangerously wrong with your assertion and it are perpetuating the falsehood that it's always someone else's fault as to why population X (whoever it might be, in whichever Western country) has an issue.

Racism still exists, however it's not the answer to every question.

[andrewmd5]

Your inability to accept reality is not an assertion of truth unto others. People can’t pull themselves up by the bootstraps if they have a boot on their neck.

https://andrew.im/essays/a-journey-to-the-american-dream

[neilsense]

The only boot on the neck of most people in the West is their society that convinces them they will never stand up.