[reducesuffering]

> The towns and cities on the Peninsula are probably laughing at SF. All the homeless are drawn to SF and have disappeared from their sidewalks.

Haha absolutely wrong. While not as bad as SF, homeless issues everywhere else in the Bay have also gotten much worse. Mountain View, San Jose, Fremont, Oakland, everywhere.

[babesh]

Nope. It seems better in Belmont, San Carlos, Burlingame, San Mateo, and Millbrae. Don’t notice the homeless hanging around CalTrain stops anymore. There used to be a few tents pitched along the tracks upper Peninsula. I don’t see those anymore. There is zero discussion of tents in social media mid Peninsula. Discussion is only focused on providing food and isolated cases of people losing jobs.

[babesh]

It may be worse in Mountain View or San Jose, I don’t know. It doesn’t seem worse in Fremont, at least the parts that I go to. Also, my relatives and friends who live there aren’t complaining. My friends who lived in SF were complaining loudly before they moved out.

[babesh]

Think homeless encampment in an empty lot right next door (not the Tenderloin nor SOMA).

[babesh]

You don’t have to believe me. Go check out videos on YouTube. Use your own eyes.

https://youtu.be/1tv0FjfGbUs https://youtu.be/HmOIQv0yu-U

Now search for other cities in the Bay. Go see what you find.

[reducesuffering]

I quoted a specific line of yours that purported the rest of the Bay's homeless situation was improving, to the detriment of SF. Linking videos of increasing homeless in SF tells us nothing about the rest of the Bay's situation.

I don't need to "search" youtube videos of the rest of the Bay to get a more accurate picture. I guess I can't speak for that tiny population-slice of the peninsula you did mention, but for the rest I'm all over the rest of the Bay's towns constantly and saying homeless populations "have disappeared from their sidewalks" is quite the overstatement.

You also probably shouldn't scatter your replies across many different nested comments elsewhere?

[babesh]

The paragraph specified the Peninsula. None of the cities you mentioned are even on the Peninsula. San Jose, Fremont, Mountain View, Oakland. None of them are in the Peninsula.

You may be right about those cities that you mentioned but my statement did not apply to them. I don’t know enough about them. I have been to Oakland recently. It’s bad. I have also been to Fremont and Milpitas. The parts I have been to don’t look worse. But who knows.

I don’t know how to gauge the Bay as a whole. That encompasses a very large region that I don’t think many have a good grasp of. The areas you mention don’t even make up half the Bay Area in area yet you are so willing to denigrate what I saw.

You are right, I should have linked to videos of the other cities. I can’t find any for several of the cities on the Peninsula. I did find two on San Jose. One says that it is bad in a specific area and the other is a protest against sweeps of that area by the police.

https://youtu.be/HXq7cXR4r2U https://youtu.be/PGLCHhH5vxY

[reducesuffering]

Sure I could've focused on explicitly the Peninsula like you originally mentioned, but 75% of the Peninsula is living in Redwood City, Palo Alto, Mountain View, Sunnyvale, not the 4 adjacent tiny towns you mentioned + San Mateo.

[babesh]

So go add focus on those towns as well or go limit it to mid Peninsula.

[babesh]

I also consider Mountain View on south to be part of the South Bay but Wikipedia doesn’t. Most SF Bay natives also draw the line the way I draw it but it doesn’t matter much.

The distinction people I know made is how far south or north people were willing to commute. So commuting from Palo Alto or Mountain View to SF was considered a really long commute. Commuting from Sunnyvale was considered untenable long term.

Most recent SF residents seem to have an additional line around SF and consider anything outside SF far. Oh well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/30qv6d/help_is_mou...

[babesh]

Oakland doesn’t count. It has the same policies as SF and has gotten worse.

[babesh]

Check out the tents off I-880.