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by lotsofpulp 1934 days ago
I don't agree that it's like nicknaming Muslims "Mohammeds" or "Qurans". There already exists a short word to refer to Muslims, which is Muslims.

Mormon is an effective short form of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints", which is a mouthful. And sometimes, you might want to refer to a specific type of Christian, such as Baptist, Protestant, Catholic, or in this case, Mormons.

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> I don't agree that it's like nicknaming Muslims "Mohammeds" or "Qurans". There already exists a short word to refer to Muslims, which is Muslims.

“Muslim” and “Islam” weren't imported from Arabic into general use in English (or most other Western European languages) until after “Mohammedan(ism)” or similar constructions had been around for a long time.

> Mormon is an effective short form of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints"

It's a short alternative, but it's not really a short form as it does not derive at all from the long form. (LDS is more of a short form.)

> Mormon is an effective short form of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints", which is a mouthful.

I agree, but they've asked not to be referred to by that term. If we extend the courtesy to trans people who don't want to be referred to by certain terms, I don't see why we shouldn't extend the same courtesy to religious people who don't want to be referred to by certain terms.

If trans people were asking to be referred to as "people who were assigned a gender at birth but do not identify with that gender now" instead of "men" or "trans men" or whatnot, one might object to the lengthiness of that, too.
"Latter-day Saint" is not that much of a mouthful. Neither is "Church of Jesus Christ", both of which are acceptable.

No worse than "I know I was called Fred in the past, but please call me Fredericka from now on"

I see where you're coming from, but for the purposes of language, I'm not aware of Mormon being a slur, and it's probably the most widely known term used to describe people in the LDS church. It's been only a few years since the church themselves called themselves Mormons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_a_Mormon

A person changing their name and a tribe changing their name is not exactly comparable, but I can see there is some gray area. I guess if people in LDS really made a big deal out of it, I'd change the way I referred to them.

Exmormon here, and op is full of it. We used to call ourselves mormon for a long time, and many of my friends still active were like whatever I'll disregard that "commandment" to not use Mormon as a term... I mean there's still a pro-mormon subreddit called mormon, and until 2016 the church had mormon.org with multiple people sharing their testimonies using the phrase "I'm a mormon".

This is just a corporatocracy trying to "rebrand" under new management. Nothing more.