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by incongruity 1939 days ago
This is some time cube level self rationalizing wackiness. Seriously - If energy is lost, that contradicts your previous claims.

You like you use language reminiscent of thermodynamics but you seem to suffer significant misapprehension of the laws of thermodynamics.

Energy is never lost in a universal sense or within a closed system. So, for you to say energy is lost if not used is either a violation of the laws of thermodynamics or admission that the earth’s ecosystem and all human endeavors therein are not a closed system. Just as energy can be lost from that system, it can be added from external sources (primarily the sun). So for any resource/bit of energy, unlike your previous statements, either I use it, you or anyone else not me uses it, or it’s lost to waste/eventually leaked from the system or it’s stored and used later (or likely some combination of all four of those). If it were zero-sum, it would be 1&2 only and no energy would ever be added to the system. That’s not the case for earth and human endeavors.

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Your first sentence is a rude insult. There’s no need for that on HN.

I’m using entropy in terms of statistical mechanics. Probability is the more viable explanation for entropy, not some random thermodynamic law. Those laws are archaic explanations of what entropy is.

I’m also not talking about just energy. I’m talking about available energy. Energy can’t be created or destroyed but it can increase in entropy and become unusable and unavailable.

The limit I’m referring to here is rate of available energy. Energy on the earth is constantly being rendered unusable through entropy increasing naturally or through the transfer of low entropy from energy to low entropy economic products. Energy is also being replenished by the sun at a fixed rate.

The usage rate and replenishment rate form an effective limit on aggregate available energy as a limited rate, making its rate of usage in an economic transaction effectively capped and therefore zero sum by definition.

There’s no time cube antics here that’s just rude. The real antic here is how you can think that people can just play the economic game and continuously benefit from repeated transactions to infinite without any actual physical price that was paid. Physical limits exist and that is not wackiness... that is common sense. Although, your reply that will follow this statement will be 100% wackiness if you want any chance at vindicating yourself.