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by pm90 1935 days ago
I can’t help but point out the incredible situation where you are engaging in precisely the kind of behavior that the person you’re replying to seems to have issue against : )
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And what behavior is that, precisely?

Pointing out that certain usage of language can be offensive? That we shouldn’t be unintentional when causing offense? That if we cause offense intentionally, we shouldn’t be surprised by the reaction of the party we have purposely insulted?

We haven't seen evidence anyone has been offended yet. Only that you are concerned others might be.

A surprisingly common phenomenon.

Perhaps I was offended and was trying to point that out politely.

I wasn’t badly offended. I was offended enough to take the time to write these comments.

Keep in mind that on HN, rude and offensive comments are down-voted all the time. There is a politeness standard on this website, and perhaps that standard should incorporate the use of language like this!

Controlling the language people use under the premise of someone arguably being offended is rarely really about "politeness," though.

Perhaps it's better if we all act like adults capable of understanding nuance in a discussion.

What is politeness but acting in a manner that is respectful of the sensitivities of our peers?

Perhaps the heart of the issue here is that when the sensitivities of certain people are not deemed to be worthy of polite respect, we are implicitly deciding that those people are not worthy of being our peers.

> What is politeness but acting in a manner that is respectful of the sensitivities of our peers?

Reciprocation. Politeness goes both ways. Giving your peer the respect in understanding that clearly s/he was not invoking a term for its racial connotations is part of that.

> Perhaps the heart of the issue here is that when the sensitivities of certain people are not deemed to be worthy of polite respect, we are implicitly deciding that those people are not worthy of being our peers.

Yep. That's the "woke" movement in a nutshell.

The rest of us will just treat each other like adults capable of understanding nuance.

> the sensitivities of certain people

Can some be ignored or do all have to be taken equally serious?

Because otherwise I'm sure you'll agree there's no end in sight. You're offended by my insensitivities, I am by yours, people start making things up just to silence people they don't like etc

In this context the word lynching clearly has nothing to do with hanging people from trees. Taking those words literally and then screaming intolerance will only lead to more misery.

>What is politeness but acting in a manner that is respectful of the sensitivities of our peers?

How do you deal with bad actors? How do companies like ebay deal with bad actors in this realm?