[paulryanrogers]

Wouldn't it be more useful to just show a spinner?

Or have zombie spinners eliminated all trust that they indicate ongoing activity?

[dpatterbee]

Was setting up a new iPhone yesterday and got burned by a zombie spinner that I believed was indicating progress was being made on the iOS 14.4 update. Left it alone for 2 hours expecting it to be done only to find it as I had left it. Restarted the process and the spinner didn't appear at all. It was like it was a spinner which could only show in the event that it had broken.

[ashishb]

Spinners are terrible since many devs forgot to implement error state

[uneekname]

I do not trust the spinners personally