[leetcrew]

I'm not intimately familiar with all the different strains of antinatalism, but I think that's kinda the point? an antinatalist would not consider funding existing people's retirements or possibly even the survival of the species to be sufficient justification for creating new conscious beings who cannot consent to their creation.

[jimbokun]

At which point that philosophy has completely jumped the shark.

The premise that the universe is somehow "better" with no conscious life is just silly sophistry.

[leetcrew]

> The premise that the universe is somehow "better" with no conscious life is just silly sophistry.

meh, no more than all the other moral philosophies. some are more practical than others, but none are more "true" than others.