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by juicyjuicytemp 1940 days ago
Some bit of gossip about the CTO of Gab, seeing as how I've got a bit of context. (Throwaway, for obvious reasons.)

The CTO was never a software engineer. They were a developer advocate so had some interaction with code, but was more of a "talk to developers using things and make sure the requirements were passed along to the dev team" sort of guy, rather than someone that knew his technical details (beyond say, the thing he was actively working on) inside and out.

Fosco started out pretty reasonable. When Trump was first elected, he did a "talk to a conservative" series, and while there was the expected disagreement, it was a pretty, civil, positive, well-received olive branch overall. However, like a lot of right-leaning folks in the Trump era, he became more extreme as time went on.

I had some reasonably close interactions with Fosco (not going to go into details with how), but it was being kind of clear that he had started to buy into the "Fox News caricature of what someone on the left is like" — to the point of putting words into the very people's mouths he'd so civilly made a point of talking to prior — and surrounding himself with like-minded folks. For all the talk of "diversity" that he had (and indeed, initially fostered!) he became pretty much the sort of caricature, albeit one of the opposite side of the spectrum, that he was deriding.

In that sense, while there's a lot of holier-than-thou and disgust that the whole Gab situation prompts, I feel pity and sadness more than anything else. Fosco was a decent guy at one point, but even decent people can end up in their own echo chambers. It's unfortunate to see the state that he's in now.

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> I feel pity and sadness more than anything else

I am not sure that is necessary. These guys know how the game is played. The alt-right has turned into an ecosystem of performative trolls all trying to out troll one another. They then leverage the infamy/fame into interviews, speaking gigs, book deals, etc... They all pretend to be outraged when they get banned from twitter, but they were purposefully toeing the line knowing full well that the inevitable ban would lead to a few headlines that they can then leverage to build their brand. And as Troy Hunt has shown, even in the middle of a security incident, they can't dare drop the facade, it would be bad for business.

Not sure I understand the downvotes this seems to have collected...
Brigading would be my guess, but eh. Having the subject pop up to respond is pretty amusing. :P
You know pretty much nothing about me, unsurprisingly. I certainly don't need your pity, lol, this last year has been one of the best.
For what it's worth, I'm not actually surprised you left Facebook when you did. A solid half year of covid meant that you stopped having to interact with folks, in person, that might've reminded you what real people that disagree with you are like, rather than just the caricatures.

If you actually think you're as good as you are, I'd dare you to do the "talk to someone that thinks differently than you". I wouldn't be surprised if you'd learn a thing or two. :)

It's odd to me that you think I've insulated myself with only people that think like me. It's like you don't know me at all. I'm literally the person who reached out and had 60 different meetings with all sorts there, and continued to maintain bipartisan group chats. Try to realize that you appear to be the one who thinks I'm a caricature.
> I'm literally the person who reached out and had 60 different meetings with all sorts there,

Yup, and I commended you for it. However, that was in 2017. I don't know how carefully you read my original comment, but it can be summarized up as "Fosco started out great, but he's been slowly getting worse". :)

> and continued to maintain bipartisan group chats.

I'd ask you to poll the folks there about how representative of the political spectrum the folks in those chats think they are and if they think any of the parts of the political spectrum are missing from those chats.

The only part of the spectrum missing from my group chats is the communists. It's just so obvious that you're not taking your own advice.
I don't know very many people in this world who would call this past year one of their best. This false bravado barely masking the petulance from being called out publicly is really not a good look for you. Maybe your god-emperor can pull off deflecting his own failures in this manner, but you surely cannot.
Is it really unthinkable to you that someone could've had a great past 12 months? I'm guessing you wear two masks.
And the fact that you feel like this year's one of the best for you is exactly why you deserve the pity...

The perceived support of a community is addictive. Hope you'll realize at some point what you're giving up to feed that addiction.