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by quasirandom 1928 days ago
Is Figure 8 an unconditional empirical CDF of inter-arrival times? Apart from the heavy right tail (which covers ~0.01% of the data), it looks pretty exponential to me. If I'm understanding what I'm seeing, it sounds like like the homogeneous Poisson assumption was pretty solid. Especially considering its purpose. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say "there's a mixture of two Poissons: the bulk and the network disruption". But I think that possibility would occur to most people reading the paper at the time.

Also, Figure 7 seems to show very little change in mean block inter-arrival time.

In fairness the authors say, "Performing the Lilliefors test on the LR data rejects the null hypothesis that block mining intervals are exponentially distributed, at a significance level of α= 0.05." But this isn't physics. We want to know how useful the approximation is, and whether there is a similarly tractable one with better predictive power.

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> Is Figure 8 an unconditional empirical CDF of inter-arrival times?

My understanding is that it's the inter-arrival times after some cleaning and resampling. If I've understood correctly, when they resampled the data, they did so uniformly between the neighbours of the points they omitted, which would actually make the data appear more like an exponential distribution.

> Especially considering its purpose. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say "there's a mixture of two Poissons: the bulk and the network disruption".

Could be. Could also follow a power law or a phase type distribution.

> But this isn't physics. We want to know how useful the approximation is, and whether there is a similarly tractable one with better predictive power.

It's worse, it's math :-) I take your point though, it all comes down to what you're trying to do. If inter-arrival times did follow an exponential distribution with parameter $\lambda$, then we'd have finite variance and I'd be pretty confident that I could build a performant predictive model. The presence of a heavy right tail makes me think otherwise.

Its been a while, but I just read an article arguing the case that Len Sassaman was a Satoshi. It was a neat article, so I watched one of Len's Defcon talks about remailers from waaay back in the day.

In his talk, Len mentioned that most remailer security analysis assumes homogeneous Poisson email arrivals. He pointed out how bad an assumption that is for email.

I still think it was a solid assumption in the Bitcoin white paper.

https://leung-btc.medium.com/len-sassaman-and-satoshi-e483c8...