[908B64B197]

EU engineers need to vote with their feet and simply go to SV for things to change.

[thesimon]

H1-B are not that easy to get, but it might get better after the required minimum salaries were raised.

Heard mixed things about intra-company transfers from Europe to the US.

Otherwise it's rather difficult to get to SV.

[patrick_halina]

Hey there’s also Canada! We don’t have San Francisco salaries but Toronto tech blows away the EU. With a job offer, you can get a visa in a few weeks.

[betaby]

No. Let say 120k CAD, that's 80k eur. Getting 80k euro in Germany is as hard (or as easy if you wish) as 120k in Canada.

[raydev]

A raw currency conversion isn't meaningful. It doesn't account for cost of living.

[908B64B197]

CoL is often mentioned, but what's not is the saving rate.

Saving the same percentage in a higher CoL place gives you the option of moving out or retiring anywhere, including a high CoL location. You don't have these options if you make a lower wage at a lower CoL place.

[betaby]

Sure, and say Munich ~ Toronto in that regard https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

So why move to Canada?

[secrecymatrix]

> So why move to Canada?

Get Canadian citizenship after 3 years, and become eligible for TN visa, which is not subject to any lotteries or quotas.

[josephjrobison]

Wouldn’t low engineer salaries encourage more startups in Germany? Relatively cheaper labor pool if the talent is good enough for Silicon Valley companies.

[thesimon]

Funding is rather limited

[908B64B197]

Maybe it's time for EU countries to negotiate a better deal than H1.

Or just get an O-1.