[Aunche]

>they've already lost billions so many have already objectively succeeded

Hedge funds lost billions to the original WSB actors who wanted to profit from a short squeeze. The activist investors of GME were just handing the hedge funds more money.

Jim Cramer is entirely a performer now. It's his job to put on a show and have meltdowns.

[mlrtime]

Some hedge funds lost billions, other hedge funds maid billions. Some HF will short and still make billions.

[Aunche]

Hedge funds make money by having better information than their opponents. When buy and HODL appears on national news, you know that hedge funds are accounting for this in their strategy. It's naive to assume that activist investors could hurt them at this point.

[MegaButts]

That was the narrative a month ago before Melvin announced losing billions, so much they actually required billions in emergency capital. "We've closed our positions. Now please sell GME."

'The hedge funds are smarter' is as stupid as 'the VCs know better.' It's a narrative they have to push to stay relevant. Otherwise they'd just point towards their balance sheets to shut people up.

It's theoretically impossible for hedge funds, in aggregate, to outperform the market.

https://web.stanford.edu/~wfsharpe/art/active/active.htm

[Aunche]

You're assuming that hedge funds trade like self-professed WSB autists rather than professionals. There is a difference in being stupid and being completely nonsensical. You don't ask stochastic calculus interview questions, and simultaneously risk your entire holdings on HODLing all your shorts.

> We've closed our positions. Now please sell GME

Nobody would expect anyone to behave that way. Hedge funds have clients and need to reassure them that they aren't going to lose all their money. Any rational investor knew that Melvin could have opened up new short positions after GME had skyrocketed.

Hedge funds may not be smart enough be beat the market, but they're certainly smarter than a group of people who learned what a "short" is, after the squeeze.

[MegaButts]

I'm sorry, but what are you talking about? Everything you say is a denial of reality.

> Nobody would expect anyone to behave that way. Hedge funds have clients and need to reassure them that they aren't going to lose all their money. Any rational investor knows that Melvin could be opening up new short positions after GME had skyrocketed.

I don't care what people expected. I'm telling you what happened. And Melvin lost money. Obviously some hedge funds made money too, but you are specifically defending Melvin's position wrt GME.

> Hedge funds may not be smart enough be beat the market, but they're certainly smarter than a group of people who learned what a "short" is, after the squeeze.

This is why hedge funds lost money in the first place. Your denial is the fuel that continues to make /r/wsb successful, so honestly I find it refreshing. You want to believe you/they are smarter. That's it. You have no data to back up your claim. If you were right, GME would never have popped a second time and it would be trading for less than 1/10 its current price. You can call it irrational all you want, this opportunity is making people money that reject your thesis.

I'll continue to bet my money on my thesis and so far I have been ridiculously successful (far more than I was making at FAANG). I've already pocketed enough to retire so I'm not concerned about volatility. I encourage you to invest your money however you see fit. I'll do the same. So far it's working great for me.

[Aunche]

> you are specifically defending Melvin's position wrt GME.

You need some reading comprehension lessons. That's not what I'm saying at all. The people who made money off the GME squeeze aren't the same people on a moral crusade against hedge funds. DeepFuckingValue bought GME because he performed thoughtful analysis and determined it to be undervalued. Sticking it to hedge funds was just a nice bonus. A schmuck who bought GME at $420.69 did so because someone on the internet told them it would be the best way to get revenge on the hedgies.

> I've already pocketed enough to retire so I'm not concerned about volatility.

Do what you want. I'm not worried about you. I'm worried about the average joe who loses $1000 on GME, declares the market is rigged, and never invests their money again. If there's anything that will kill hedge funds, it would be increasing financial literacy, not short squeeze memes.