[perfect_kiss]

I got the feeling this post is a bit sarcastic, because it references horses, as opposed to automobiles.

If you just replace "horses" with "mass public transit", "railroads" and "electrobikes", it suddenly starts to make much more sense.

[fredfoobar]

Horses will work on YOUR schedule, and it's socially distanced during COVID.

[perfect_kiss]

Same with electrobikes. Also electrobike can use multiple horse powers, instead of just one.

[fredfoobar]

Will an electrobike take you home when you are blind drunk? What do we do when you run out of charge on your electrobike? what happens when there is a blackout? I don't think you've thought through all the problems properly.

[cyberlurker]

An electro bike doesn’t require someone to pick up all the crap and won’t throw you when it hears a loud bang. I don’t think you’ve thought through the problems with horse transportation properly.

[BoorishBears]

I live in NYC, in 50 story apartment building next to several other similarly sized high rises.

Our cars need about 75 sq. ft each (they're on stacked up 3 levels high in the garage)

How many sq. ft. would we need for all of our horses? How many people would be needed to take care of them full time?

Actually yeah... outside of cities who'd be taking care of these horses? Because cars need mechanics when something goes wrong obviously, but likewise horses need vets.

The day-to-day stuff like refueling a car is dead easy, meanwhile you can't just ignore your horse in the stable for a week because you didn't feel like going anywhere then fill it up on the way to your destination...

Edit response because I'm rate limited:

It seems you're not joking with the tone you're taking. I feel bad for you.

Our world would be much better off if we all lived in cities like NYC. Ten years ago average New Yorker generated 30% less CO2 than the average, and greenhouse emissions from the city were trending downward as economic activity trended upwards.

But yeah, I guess you're just enlightened past living near other people and shame on anyone who's comfortable enough with human contact to live in a city.

For all your posturing it's ironic you'd balk at "living in a crowded place"... the 30% in CO2 we'd save by living in cities like NYC is more than if we got rid of all forms of transportation in the US. Meaning simply by living in a city I don't really need to play ridiculous mental gymnastics like, but it's fun to tear down a bad argument.

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You're privileged enough to have an existence where taking care of a horse is easy and "therapeutic" I'm sure all the people barely making ends meet working 2 jobs would have just as easy a time filling up their car in 5 minutes as taking care of a horse.

I wonder what percentage of Americans have and additional 2 to 4 hours every single day just burning a hole in their pockets

And let's not forget the fact a car requires operating two pedals and a wheel. We can even modify them to require less for people who are physically impaired.

Good luck with taking care of an actual horse with a physical impairment. I'm sure you'll just say it's good exercise though, and woe onto you if you're someone with something like limited mobility trying to muck a horse stall.

It's always funny how the people who lived in the most privileged little bubbles seem to think those big city sheeple just don't get it

[fredfoobar]

So, you're telling me you want less responsibility and want to live in a crowded place. I feel bad for you.

Taking care of a horse is easy, it's therapeutic even. Besides, if you don't want to own a horse, you can always hitch a ride from a friendly neighborhood horse-carriage operator.

[heterodoxxed]

| you want less responsibility and want to live in a crowded place. I feel bad for you.

You are not the rugged individualist yeoman you imagine yourself to be.

[lordnacho]

> Will an electrobike take you home when you are blind drunk?

Is this really the USP of horses? Do they even do this?

[yesbabyyes]

They do. Source: a neighbor where I grew up used to ride quite a lot, and drink even more (he has since given up both). After a particularly wet night at a neighbor's place, some 7-8 km away (or half that, going straight through the forest like a horse), his friends simply heaved him on to his horse and sent him home.

[kenniskrag]

lol. still a bike :D

[solveit]

Completely irrelevant to your point, but fun fact: a horse can actually produce like 14 horsepower.

[fredfoobar]

Just enough for a human and horses are nice.

[alliao]

with Animals being protected in my corner of the world, the way I'm neglecting my daily beater might land me in jail if it were a horse.......

[smolder]

Improperly maintained cars make me almost as sad as improperly maintained horses. We destroy billions of dollars worth of cars each year collectively because of people not affording/otherwise failing to do maintenance. On the flip side, thoroughly maintaining them would tend to result in a glut of older, less efficient cars, so it's not a cut and dry issue.

[fredfoobar]

Just wear a mask while you ride your horse, feed and brush them daily, you'll also feel better for doing so.