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Hi Jeff! Great to see a Roam alternative backed by YC! Congrats on the launch!

What are you thoughts on the other Roam alternative, Logseq[1]? It seems to be doing really well and has a lot of features, from github sync and encrypted data to custom themes and publishing, it looks like privacy is their main goal, while being local-first and opensource, do you think that such features will be implemented in the near future and will those features become somewhat a standard across PKM's?

Good luck with the launch!

[1] https://logseq.com

[altgans]

E: I somehow replied to the wrong post. Sorry about that.

From all the Note-taking tools, I liked TW best, as the "story river" is a genious visualization, but I found the text editor very cumbersome and annoying. It just did not feel good to write my notes.

The "tag-interface" always popped up and could only be closed with the mouse, there were some issues with tab, ...

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I then moved to Dendron and finally to org-roam. I think markdown notes are superior to org-files*, but I also wanted VIM keys, as being able to write without hassle is the single most important thing when taking notes. VSC of course has a VIM extension, but it is very much a second-class citizen. There is also the option to emulate and use nvim, but then I would have to set-up and customize nvim. Why not move directly to Emacs, where Evil reigns superior?

*org-files are very parasitic. I only consider them plain-text in the sense that they can be opened and edited with any text editor, similar to SVG, JSON and XML. But they are not exactly plain, and pretty much unusable outside of emacs/org-mode.

[tangjeff0]

LogSeq is great, tried collaborating with them a while ago, starting with a shared spec, but it didn't work out. How much of this is standard is up to the tool makers!

All features are possible, especially given similar technologies. The question is about design/product - whether we need to have all these features. Most notetaking apps are too bloated IMO.

[yewenjie]

I really am looking forward to Logseq maturing since it offers `org-mode` markup support and can potentially inter-operate with `org-roam`. :)

[lancesells]

I don't want to sound too harsh here but I had a loading screen come up to show me a page of text. I know it's not plain text and probably has some giant javascript framework behind it but still a loading screen for that page?

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This is not a webpage, but fully functional web app (you can edit that text). That text is stored as plain text, then parsed and moved to DataScript (in-memory clojurescript database). That's why you see loading screen. This happens only when you reload tab, otherwise there are no loading screens when one is working within this app (it also has a desktop app [electron]).