[deeeeplearning]

>The US is a great place to live and work with tremendous upward mobility

Always confused by this notion. People act as if the US is the only place this is possible but not only is it possible in most of the western world, there is in fact BETTER mobility in the much of the western world relative to the US. The US isn't even in the Top 10!

https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-where-intergenerat...

[oblio]

I guess most people just don't know the numbers and go by gut feeling, mass media and what they learned in (primary/secondary) school many years ago.

[jawzz]

You’re blatantly misquoting the person you’re replying to.

[deeeeplearning]

In what way. You would call being 18th in income mobility "tremendous?" I wouldn't.

[s1artibartfast]

Why not?

For you, it seems that "tremendous" means best in class. Where is the cutoff, 1st, 3rd, top 10?

For others, being in the top 10 percent of 195+ countries is quite significant. For the average person in the rest of the world, being in the US would provide a significant and meaningful increase in their economic mobility.

[deeeeplearning]

Pretty confused by the downvotes. People don't like data?

I mean in fact it's worse than people think and you are no longer likely to make more than your parents when a few decades ago you had a 90% chance of doing so.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w22910

Never expected such a ra-ra USA #1 vibe on HN. Especially in the face of data that says otherwise.