[0df8dkdf]

>Big Sur has been out for 3 months now and the company I work for, like many others, has a blanket ban on upgrading to it because of mountains of compatibility problems with mission-critical software.

I have being a Mac user since Apple II. All these changes really saddens me. Can we start some kind group similar to class action law suit to pressure Apple into changing this kind of behaviour in Big Sur. If not enough people upgrade, maybe they will have skip a version and come out with something more light weight. I think that happened with Snow Leopard ( don't remember the exact one).

[sbarre]

There is already a group of people applying this pressure. Ex-customers who have stopped buying their products. Join us.

Along with many others it seems, Catalina is the last version of macOS I'll be using.

I have a 2013 27" iMac and as of mid-last year I was considering buying a new one sometime in 2021, but I've now changed my mind, due to decisions Apple has made about how they handle their desktop operating system.

[0df8dkdf]

Thanks, is there a group where we can join? Maybe a web site would be great. Please post a link or PM me if you know. It relates to both personal and professional usage of MacOS.

[sbarre]

Oh no sorry I didn't mean there was an actual group I just meant stop buying Apple products and vote with your wallet.

Apple doesn't care about a group but they do care about money. So do like many of us and stop giving them your money. It's all we can really do.

Sorry for the confusion!

[jjav]

It is so sad and misguided from Apple. I remember when OSX 10.0 came out. A nice Apple UI on BSD core! I immediately rushed to buy an Apple laptop, my first Apple product ever (only Linux/Solaris/otherUNIXs before that).

Been on Apple desktops ever since. But the decline in the last several years has been sharp and no longer tolerable to me. I'm still on a Mac dekstop but I'm on 10.11 and will never upgrade. As OSX becomes closer and closer to an iOS-style user-hostile walled garden, I'm not interested. It'll be back to a Linux (maybe, BSD) desktop after this machine no longer works.

[smoldesu]

I really hope that something can be done, but Tim Cook's hostility towards the end user gives me a feeling that they're not interested. Don't get me wrong, though, Cook's grip on Apple has offered some much-needed upgrades in a lot of key ares, but the power-user has been ignored the entire time. I also get the feeling that their interest lies in engineering the Mac to appeal to the lowest common denominator. They can sell an iPhone to anyone, they can sell an iPad to anyone, but they can't sell a Mac to just anyone. The solution? Make it run iPhone and iPad apps.

[gjvc]

This reminds me of something I read here a long time ago "At Apple we know what users want, and we give it to them good and hard."