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by pkolaczk 1936 days ago
As I said, lower fuel costs is quite debatable and heavily depends on the region and what you will use the car for. If you can't charge it at home like many people living in dense city areas, or if you drive long distances, then you'll have to use public chargers which are much more expensive. Initially in Poland when almost nobody had EVs these chargers were free, now they are 2x-6x more expensive than charging at home and in this case ICEs are actually cheaper.

If you drive short distances only and you do have a garage, then charging at home will work for you, but then you might not get high enough mileage to offset the initial price difference.

Additionally the deprecation is higher on EVs (probably due to concerns about the battery durability) so that would be also included in the lease.
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ogre_codes 1936 days ago
Yeah, currently the experience with an EV varies greatly based on locale. Some of this will remain indefinitely—there will likely always be homes where parking with chargers is unavailable. Some of it depends on infrastructure investment.

> Additionally the deprecation is higher on EVs (probably due to concerns about the battery durability) so that would be also included in the lease.

Teslas retain their value exceptionally well.

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tonyedgecombe 1936 days ago
Poland does seem to be a laggard on EV's, I seem to remember reading that the UK has thirty times as many public charging points as Poland.
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pkolaczk 1935 days ago
Correct. But isn't there also 30x more EVs?
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tonyedgecombe 1935 days ago
Isn't it true that a lot of 2nd hand cars migrate from Western Europe to Eastern Europe. I wonder if you will always lag behind because of this.
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pkolaczk 1934 days ago
Minor correction: Poland is not Eastern Europe.

Also correlation is not causation. Generally eastern countries of former Soviet Union are poorer than western ones. EVs are more expensive than traditional cars, so obviously fewer people can afford.

Another reason is politics. At least in Poland, there are no subsidies for EVs. EVs need to compete directly with ICE cars, but it is hard to do so when they are 30% more expensive. You need to really drive a lot to get back 30% in gasoline savings.

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hollerith 1934 days ago
Is Poland in Central Europe?

I'm curious, not trying to start an argument.

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detaro 1934 days ago
That's the nowadays common association, yes.
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