[paulie_a]

They are in california. They can give the finger to the gpdr. It's irrelevant to most people in the world

People tend to forget that it is not applicable. For instance nothing I build will ever comply to it regardless of users that might be in europe

Clubhouse has no duty to obey european law

The question is: why do you think the need to be compliant?

[_abox]

This is not how it works. If you make it available to EU users, you have to comply with GDPR (at least when it comes to those user's data).

For the same reason WhatsApp's new T&Cs don't really change anything for EU users.

However I don't think the collection of contacts is actually illegal under GDPR, considering WhatsApp does exactly this too. And it's huge in Europe, much bigger than in the US. if they haven't gone after WhatsApp for this, they will probably not do so for Clubhouse.

[paulie_a]

If they don't do business there they don't have to comply. Making it available doesn't count

Just like I don't have to comply if I have EU users on a service, I am in the united stated. europe cannot enforce their laws here. It's just the same as if saudia arabia tried to enforce their laws here. They carry no wait

That is what makes the GDPR insignificant. It applies to Europe. Not the rest of the world. The cookie warnings for the vast majority of the internet are stupid an unnecessary

So call it illegal in europe but who cares?

It honestly is maddening how many people care about the GDPR that don't need to

[_abox]

There's many EU things that take effect with vendors outside the EU. Like software sales: Try to buy a license for a software package from the EU (or with an EU payment card) and you will always be hit with VAT at the rate of your country :( Even if the company is US based only. With the exception of really small ones I guess. In the above case it's annoying for us :) But in the case of GDPR it's good IMO.

Anyway the EU says it applies but I agree they don't really have much in the way of enforcement capability with companies that have no presence here. Though they could ask Apple/Google to remove it from the store I suppose.

And of course most companies do have a presence here. All multinationals do, and even the smaller ones. Even if it's just a sales office.

[paulie_a]

Most American companies don't though. They can safely ignore european laws

[TT3351]

And also choose not operate in the nations whose laws they are flouting in most cases; EDIT: a few weeks ago EU posters here were describing how ERCOT was preventing access to the company's public facing website, citing not wanting to comply with GDPR