[sarabob]

Parts per million, not parts per billion. [1]

Yes, H2O is the strongest greenhouse gas, but its concentration (~5000ppm average) is limited by temperature and it will condense out as mist/clouds/rain. CO2 is nowhere near saturation levels, so atmospheric levels of CO2 have been growing. [2]

By all means you can tell the world that we should go back to a planet that looks like it did 15M years ago (miocene), but a 40m sea level increase is a pretty hard sell and IMHO does not match the "this is fine" tone of your post.

CO2 tends not to liquify but forms solid dry ice, so CO2 is not present in "liquid air" [3] (nor is anything with a boiling point <80K). Your proposed "obvious and dead simple" experiment is flawed.

"an engineer that has spent WAY too many years going down every single rabbit hole" is hard to justify based on the easily-debunked assertions you make, but even if you are correct and farming is the biggest cause and that it can/should bear the brunt of reduction efforts, it does not follow that we should therefore ignore all other avenues to address the problem. Yes, iron may be a part of the solution, but can you not see that building wind turbines, insulating houses and having electric cars is less risky than dumping huge quantities of iron in the sea?

Please consider that there _is no conspiracy_ and that scientists are mostly underpaid humans with a deep interest in their areas of study. Also consider that we know that fossil fuel companies have been funding AGW-denial. If you want conspiracies, try looking there.

[1]https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/... [2]https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/climatesci... [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_air

[imtringued]

I always wonder how people can fight tooth and nail for something small and local like their neighborhood to never change and then once there is a global phenomenon that is directly threatening the culture of every human on the planet they don't give a damn.

How is your neighborhood supposed to stay the same if the planet is getting hotter over time? It might only be 1°C right now but since nobody really cares we are likely to head to something less reasonable like 4°C and that will definitively impact culture.

[brianwawok]

To a 50-60 year old person with 10-30 years to live? I doubt global warming will have a major impact on their life. The cost of what is needed to change anything WILL be visible on their very next paycheck.

Now compare this with voter turnout by age bracket, and the current path of the world is pretty easy to see as people looking out for their own best interest, which is rational and what we are hardwired to do.

[zackees]

Thanks for the correction on PPM not PPB.

Let me address the H20 issue with the runaway global warming theory.

There is literally an ocean of H20, therefore the total load of H2O is elastic (unlike CO2). Hotter temperature -> more H2O in the atmosphere -> hotter temperature -> repeat.

Yet this hasn’t happened. The point about water condensing is besides the point, because water is also vaporizing and the equilibrium point is determined by temperature, which the runaway theory says is a divergent phenomenon.

Let’s rewrite the original assertion:

Higher Temperature -> Higher water vapor equilibrium —> higher temperature. This cycle can repeat endlessly because of the ocean.

As far as independent scientist doing global warming research on their own dime, this just isn’t true. There is public and private money set aside to study this.

Highly credentialed global warming skeptics like Judith Curry have generated around ~150 papers which conclude that global alarmism over human caused global warming is a “hoax”. Her actual words.

Astoundingly, there is a complete media blackout on this scientist and others like her. Infact a huge case the msm won’t cover anymore is the case of Tim Ball who decried global warming alarmism as pseudo science (Corruption of Climate Science Has Created 30 Lost Years," Jan 10, 2011).

He was sued for defamation by Michael Mann, the same person who was caught up in email scandal or manipulating climate data.

Tim Ball went to court and got discovery of Michael Mann’s climate date. 10 years later, the judge finally dismissed the case because Michael Mann failed to produce the data by the judges orders.

This is not “science” this is a religion run by a corrupt cartel.