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by flatline 1936 days ago
I know for crypto back in 2015-2017 there were semi-private groups that would orchestrate P&D schemes for alt coins. I think "social media" is probably misused here as much if not more than "meme stock" - the internet just makes collusion that much easier.
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No different nowadays. /biz/ runs endless P&D schemes.
They are still going strong. More of them even thanks to the wave of dumb money that flooded in recently.
Orchestrating in secrets, OK; but pumping in secret??
Not secret necessarily, just spamming only niche groups on telegram and discord, not publicly spamming. I believe they think this makes it less likely they get caught whilst still covering a lot of ground. For an analysis of these private telegram groups doing pumping, see the following paper. It has an index at the end listing all the private channels they used in their analysis

[0] https://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~livshits/papers/tr/pump_and_dump_t...

Wow, really interesting, thanks for posting that.
In my Twitter feed a couple months ago, I saw a tweet (a promoted tweet? If they even have that and I’m remembering correctly) advertising a crypto “pumping group” on Discord. Yes, they actually referred to themselves as a “pumping group.”

Not so secret in terms of getting new members!