[chrisseaton]

> Is that a serious question?

Yes?

> Vehicles simply didn't have have navigation prior to separate GPSs like Garmin.

But we're not talking pre-Garmin here - the person I was replying to said recent Lexus didn't have them. They must have had navigation in a recent Lexus surely? So how did you input an address?

[Der_Einzige]

A joystick or touchpad!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/14/b2/4714b2032ba746a2fce7...

https://images.cars.com/cldstatic/wp-content/uploads/img-142...

also lol at people downvoting me who don't drive a Lexus and think I'm wrong about my claim that they don't use touch screens. Maybe they had one model that kept a touch screen but the RX series didn't get one until I believe 2020. It had 4 years of not having one at least. That's by far their most popular car. I don't remember the ES or GX that I test drove having them either until recently...

[ghaff]

I guess I'm surprised that such things existed. I never saw one, but then I still don't have a built-in touchscreen system. I just use a phone. I guess I assumed that any built-in nav touch screen was controlled by touch but maybe not.