[Arnt]

Speaking as foreigner, I did wish you'd vote him out of office because of the thirty thousand lies, but that doesn't seem to matter to people like you, at least you don't mention it as a factor. Neither as a major nor as a contributing factor. Could you explain why not?

[is-ought]

I dont view him as any bigger liar than any other politician, and I do view him as a liar. That is of little concern to me as I dont expect anything other than policy making that puts liberty first. And to be very explicit, many of my favorite people are liars of some sort. That is not a meaningful metric for me. The 10k household GDP increase and aggravated school marms, is meaningful to me.

However, that said I didn't vote for Clinton after reading 'no one left to lie to' (and her debate performances). Nothing that came out on Trump really offended me, I dont mind plainly stating.

In fact here are lies from Joe Biden that I could not look past:

* Lied about graduating in the top half of his class at law school. He was 76th in a class of 85. This is a neat one because Trump could get away with it because he doesnt sell himself as a moral busybody.

* Lied about graduating with three degrees from undergraduate school. Again a terrible lie for the person pandering to the population of America who needs outsiders to find them 'smart'. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho)

* Plagiarized a speech from another politician. This is egregious given the branding around the Democratic party. Silly.

* Accused the person involved in his wifes accident of being drunk without reason, after knowing better (pity party, lets be honest).

Those above are all from previous Presidential runs. Im not even talking about saying he wasnt going to ban fracking and then banning fracking.

To make it extremely clear: I would not vote for a person who claimed the wage gap myth is real when given the choice to instead vote for a buffoon.

[rektide]

Day one, Trump's making up complete shit about having the biggest inauguration ever. Absolutely no shame, no backing down, no nuance: 100% pedal to the metal lying insanity, with no evidence, just ignoring every criticism, every fact in within 3000 miles. A complete piece of shit man, through & through, who brought lying & deceit to unfounded new levels in politics.

You have some shit to sling against Biden but I've never seen a single one of these claims made in the first place. I welcome politicians to be challenged, but these challenges have never surfaced, never become topics, where-as we spent weeks dealing with absolute bedlam mad-cap insanity at Trump endlessly not-ever-shutting-the-fuck-up about having the biggest inauguration. He was a master of abusive lying, deliberate, fake, ongoing, dis-proved lying, as a political act, to piss off decent ok truth-believing people. Biden has none of this. None of it.

[is-ought]

Lol your issues amuse me. I can't wait to vote for him again.

Its every voters job to inform themselves on the candidates. Try as you may but Biden is and was a clear establishment idiot. The fact that you are not aware of his many bad endorsements, gaffes and failures says more about your information channels than it does about Trump.