[astan]

And investment in preserving nature, learning from it, and investment into human beings and nurturing their capabilities dwarfs all the investment in technology.

And I don't mean nurturing capabilities to make them drones spending all their energy working for corporates, but for themselves and being able to pursue their own causes. And believe me, we won't need new shoes and new apps and perfect games every week if we are not being drained of our energy 50hrs/wk. We can and will happily do with much less if what we have is not cheap trash hurting our bodies and souls, manufactured by suffering working class people (please look up suicide rates in chinese factories and in working class communities in america).

[WalterBright]

> spending all their energy working for corporates,

Without corporates, we'd be spending all our energy working on subsistence farms. No thanks.

[astan]

Why do you think that? We can still work and produce, but instead of having new shoes released by nike every month, they would be released every year. People who want to work 80hrs/wk can still do that, essential jobs like firefighters that currently pay very little can pay 250k a year, instead of getting 10 fruits in your supermarket, you will have to deal with 5 locally grown ones, but anyone who wants to pursue other things will be generously allowed to. Usual work days can be reduced to 3 days of work per week.

We just need to reduce fetishism with non human scale technology at the cost of nature and humans. But people are still free to pursue it, and societies can pick what aspects they want.

[WalterBright]

The way people organize to work on something is to form a company (or corporation). Getting rid of them means everyone pretty much has to be self-sufficient, i.e. subsistence farming.

> anyone who wants to pursue other things will be generously allowed to.

As they are now. Nobody is forced to work for any companies in America.

[Shared404]

Is it too much to ask for balance though?

I see neither end as ideal for the average person, but we are definitely farther to the corporate side of things than I am personally comfortable with.