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by kelnos 1936 days ago
> If someone is ideologically possessed, they will use these tools to skewer outgroup ideas but not apply them to ingroup ideas.

Not just that, but ideologically-possessed people will flat-out reject a truth-finding methodology that results in conflicts with their worldview.

There's no point in giving someone the tools to find the truth if they're so wedded to their "truth" that evidence will not make them change their minds.
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nobody9999 1936 days ago
>There's no point in giving someone the tools to find the truth if they're so wedded to their "truth" that evidence will not make them change their minds.

Are you making the argument that because some folks won't use them, such tools/methods are useless?

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dnissley 1936 days ago
Perhaps useless in the sense that those who need them the most will either refuse to use them or misuse them.

Going further... I think it might be fair to say that those tools just don't scale.

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nobody9999 1936 days ago
>Perhaps useless in the sense that those who need them the most will either refuse to use them or misuse them.

I'd argue that such tools are valuable to everyone, even those who have no interest in verifying the credibility or veracity of information sources.

As the old saw goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." Or both more snarkily and (IMHO) more accurately, "you can lead a fool to knowledge, but you can't make him think."

>Going further... I think it might be fair to say that those tools just don't scale.

I'm not sure what your mean by "scale" in this context.

Determining for oneself the credibility/veracity of information or an information source is (and should be, IMHO) inherently an individual pursuit.

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