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by CyberRage 1942 days ago
These cloud based solutions perform hashing+salting+KDFing locally and then add additional compute cost on the cloud level.

I don't see any issues with that.

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The issue is that if an attacker can eavesdrop on a compromised authentication server, then it can record user's master-key and thus he will be able to impersonate user without issues until the password gets changed (i.e. the derived master-password is actually plays role of a password now). With PAKE this issue simply does not exist.
Nono. the master-key never leaves the device.

Via the master-key, the program derives(locally) the key to encrypted the data and a different secondary key for authentication against the server. without knowing the master-key you can't decrypt the vault even if you were able to trick the server into sending you the vault.

The vault is decrypted locally

Deriving two separate keys does indeed improve the situation, but still not ideal, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26230259