[deckard1]

I've been using React since 2014 or so.

I can't speak for Angular or Vue, but I'm 100% sold on Svelte. It cuts out all of the crap that React and Redux introduced (lifecycles, hooks, boilerplate, etc.) and boils it all down to fundamentals. You can read the entire docs in a day and fully understand how everything fits together. I dare say it, but Svelte's docs are a breath of fresh air. It's rare that I read documentation and want to keep reading it.

To me, that's what boring tech is about. It's about finding the simplest, cleanest way to do what you need to do. I hope Svelte takes the path of long-term stability over features and complexity and innovation for the sake of it. What they have right now is a solid foundation.

> convoluted bullshit like redux-saga

Wait until you meet saga's bigger brother RxJS/redux-observable. Someone on HN once mentioned JIRA was using RxJS and I realized "ah, that explains why JIRA is the slow pile of absolute shit it is." From just knowing a company is using RxJS I can already guess at the type of internal communication and politics at play in the company, as well as what their code base looks like.

[atom_arranger]

I use a browser extension for checking out the tech stack of web apps.

I haven't done it so much lately but a couple years ago whenever I would check an app with nice UX it was React, and if it was terrible UX it was Angular or something else.

Also interested to see where Svelte will go. For my latest project I just didn't choose it because of lack of libraries.

[criddell]

I've been looking at this from a slightly different level. React may be the best choice for a UX on the web but I think it's still far worse than any native app. It's one of the reasons I get so disappointed after hearing about something cool and new and then finding out it's an Electron app.

I'm stuck on this idea that the best UX is a native app for performance reasons (responsiveness, memory, CPU, battery), aesthetic reasons (assuming your like your native platform) and longevity. On my desktop I often run applications that are a decade or more old. How many web apps rolling out today can sit untouched for the next decade and continue to do useful work?

[danjac]

Could it be that Angular was the tool of choice of enterprise , and enterprise UX notoriously sucks for all kinds of reasons tangential to technology?